Hunting Washington Forum
Washington State Hunting Forum and Northwest Resource Site
Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News:
Free:
Contests & Raffles
.
Home
Help
Calendar
Advertise
Login
Register
Hunting Washington Forum
»
Big Game Hunting
»
Out Of State Hunting
»
Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
Advertisement
Advertise Here
« previous
next »
Print
Pages:
1
2
[
3
]
All
Go Down
Author
Topic: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt (Read 17900 times)
Rob
Non-Hunting Topics
Trade Count:
(
+3
)
Frontiersman
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4814
Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #30 on:
December 04, 2012, 06:47:35 PM »
The PH's are amazing and can usually tell a male from a female zebra. It is based on size, and if you can see genitalia (I assume you can see the genitalia on a zebra... I might be wrong on that).
These are short haired animals so it is easier to see that. But They do study them for a while before they tell you to take the shot.
I have not seen anyone charge a different rate for male vs female on Zebra. often folks are really looking for either a perfect pelt, or a scared up pelt from fights/lions, etc. That is usually the bigger question people have over male/female. and each hunter is looking for a different thing.
I cannot imagine why anyone would charge a different price for gender on a zebra, unless they are trying to manage a small herd. that is possible in South Africa since most if not all of the land is high fence areas. it is possible he had a smaller herd and did not want to take out the breeders.
If I was the hunter in that situation, I would tell the PH, you tell me which one is a male and I will shoot that one. If I shoot the one you tell me to, and it turns out to be a female, then I expect to pay the lower male rate!
Burchells zebra are gregarious herd animlas and found in large herds. Mixed with males and females. Hartman's zebra on the other hand travel in small family groups. The Hartman's I shot a few years back was with a mare and foal. IT was clear which one was the male as he was much larger. This could be another situation where they are charging more for a male. Ifthey have a harder to find type of zebra, they might be trying to limit what is taken.
Logged
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
- Chris Ledoux
Advertise Here
Rob
Non-Hunting Topics
Trade Count:
(
+3
)
Frontiersman
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4814
Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #31 on:
December 04, 2012, 06:56:39 PM »
Just went through all the zebra photos from the last two trips. I am not seeing prominent Genitalia on any of the animals. and with all the stripes it is hard to see what is going on down there. An experience PH can probably tell, but I don't think I could. not like a typical horse!
here is the only photo I could find and it is pretty blurry.
Logged
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
- Chris Ledoux
DeerThug
Political & Covid-19 Topics
Trade Count:
(
+4
)
Longhunter
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 884
Location: Yakima
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #32 on:
December 05, 2012, 07:23:07 PM »
Intersting .. thanks Not sure what the deal was with this guy but from what you said i am guessing a smaller operation.
So back to the meat. what do they do with all of the meat. does it get used some of it must be good stuff.
Logged
Shoot straight Shoot often
Rob
Non-Hunting Topics
Trade Count:
(
+3
)
Frontiersman
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4814
Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #33 on:
December 06, 2012, 07:16:30 AM »
The meat was mostly taken and eaten by the locals. The politics of stuff like that is complicated, but with the indigenization that is going on in Zim, I believe the villagers have some kind of right for the meat.
We shot several animals (at no charge) for meat for the village and for the trackers and skinners. We kept some of the meat for the camp, and we used some of the meat for bait (Hyena, leopard, etc)
It all eats very well. Here is one of the buff's up on the skinning rack.
Logged
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
- Chris Ledoux
DeerThug
Political & Covid-19 Topics
Trade Count:
(
+4
)
Longhunter
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 884
Location: Yakima
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #34 on:
December 06, 2012, 07:24:11 PM »
that looks like some goed meat there andenough to feed quite a few ..
Logged
Shoot straight Shoot often
fvh40
Trade Count:
(
0
)
Hunter
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 170
Location: South Africa
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #35 on:
December 06, 2012, 10:20:24 PM »
It is very difficult to identify a male zebra when they are in herd, with good bino's and patience you will get it eventually.
As Rob said, the males are a bit bigger than the females. I try to see testicles from an angel and I look at the legs, head and the neck, they are bigger and thicker than the female's.
Regarding eating a Baboon,
Logged
Out here I"m free
www.ferdiventerhunting.com
Austrian Hunter
Trade Count:
(
0
)
Frontiersman
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4491
Location: Yakima, WA
Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #36 on:
December 06, 2012, 10:33:07 PM »
Wow!!!!!
Logged
Austrian Hunter
Trade Count:
(
0
)
Frontiersman
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4491
Location: Yakima, WA
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #37 on:
December 07, 2012, 06:12:03 PM »
I have been looking at your pics now several times. It's soo cool!! I can't get over the Baboon..... Man these things are freaky!!! No, maybe scary is the better word. Can you imagine ten of them decide to have you for lunch? Nasty critters! The small monkey is cool but his teeth are still amazing. I can't wait to go over there for my 40th
Logged
Rob
Non-Hunting Topics
Trade Count:
(
+3
)
Frontiersman
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4814
Location: Sandpoint ID
Re: Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
«
Reply #38 on:
December 09, 2012, 08:23:01 PM »
You are going to have a GREAT hunt. It is quite an experience!
I am really looking forward to seeing the skulls from the Baboon and Vervet.
Thanks for weighing in Ferdi, I thought it would be easy to tell, but as I went through all my photos I saw that it was much harder than I thought it would be.
I have a lot of respect for folks like Ferdi and the other PH's I have met. The number of animals they need to be experts in is pretty amazing. it's not like they need to know a good whitetail, mule deer, elk, bear and perhaps moose or some other less common animal like we do here in the states.
They need to be experts on things like Klipspringers, Impala, Hartebeest, Zebra, Wildebeest, Duiker, Steenbok, Springbok, Kudu, warthog, Gemsbok, Bushbuck, and I am sure there are others. And that is just plains game. Then there are DG hunts like Buffalo, Lion, Leopard, Elephant, Croc, Hippo, etc.
It gets really tough (at least for me) with straight horned animals like Steenbok, Klipspringer, and Gemsbok. no reference points. The gemsbok are especially tough as both males and females have horns, the females horns are longer, but the males are thicker. And they grow more or less in relation to body size. So at a distance, they all kinda look the same.
Logged
_______________________________________
Sit tall in the saddle, hold you head up high.
Keep your eyes fixed on where the trail meets the sky.
Live like you ain’t afraid to die.
Just sit back and enjoy your ride
- Chris Ledoux
Advertise Here
Print
Pages:
1
2
[
3
]
All
Go Up
« previous
next »
Hunting Washington Forum
»
Big Game Hunting
»
Out Of State Hunting
»
Results from 2012 Zimbabwe hunt
Advertisement
Advertise Here
Quick Links
Front Page
Donate To Forum
Advertise on H-W
Recent Posts
Articles
Forum Rules
Recent Topics
Oregon Seed #'s
by
Crunchy
[
Today
at 03:20:46 PM]
Oregon spring bear
by
Doublelunger
[
Today
at 02:05:20 PM]
Black Eagle arrows deals
by
kodiak06
[
Today
at 02:02:59 PM]
Burrowing Animal
by
Hilltop123
[
Today
at 01:50:46 PM]
2025 Multiseason Deer General?
by
Goshawk
[
Today
at 12:23:10 PM]
Last year putting in…
by
Dirtnap
[
Today
at 11:48:14 AM]
Colorado Results
by
vandeman17
[
Today
at 10:20:27 AM]
What's flatbed pickup life like?
by
Special T
[
Today
at 10:19:28 AM]
Tag issues with "Get Outdoors" package
by
Encore 280
[
Today
at 08:54:30 AM]
.300 Win Mag Rounds
by
W.Goomsba
[
Today
at 08:29:32 AM]
Shout out to Talley Manufacturing
by
EnglishSetter
[
Yesterday
at 09:56:57 PM]
Knight ridge runner
by
Irish_hunter93
[
Yesterday
at 09:43:04 PM]
Halibut fishing
by
hiway_99
[
Yesterday
at 08:10:49 PM]
Desert Sheds
by
aer212
[
Yesterday
at 07:21:58 PM]
Finally found him!
by
zwickeyman
[
Yesterday
at 05:45:27 PM]
Vantage Bridge
by
MADMAX
[
Yesterday
at 04:58:46 PM]
Nevada Results
by
High Climber
[
Yesterday
at 04:51:37 PM]
Finally found him.
by
Tree Killer
[
Yesterday
at 02:18:02 PM]
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal