Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?

[deerslyr]

Well two members have shown there intelligence the last few days, jeepguy and Yelm Hunter 

[jeepguy]

I beleive i have had enuff input

[RifleRidge]

Enuff said.....Really!

[Greenhorn]

Why do I keep coming back to this thread?   Would you all stop posting on here, it is driving me nuts!

[RifleRidge]

Why do I keep coming back to this thread?   Would you all stop posting on here, it is driving me nuts!

  

[jackelope]

All done.

[skywalker253]

I recreated the topic since it was locked. Why? Cus I am the person, who turned that guy in. His story is all BS. Let me post the REAL STORY....

Since everyone is saying this is a dead thread; let me bring it back to life. I have posted numerous times in here, and I have no reason to BS or lie. I have nothing to gain out of this. After going back and reading the thread, I began to wonder.  A few days ago, I asked "what GMU did this take place in?" No response. So why did I ask that? Because I am 99.9% sure that I am the one, who turned this guy in. His story is all BS. Allow me to explain....

All little history of the area....
The offense took place in GMU 162. I have hunted there for over 25 years. My father is 66 years old and has hunted there since he was 18 years old. We know all the land owners and have taken our share of deer. Those who are not familar; much of 162 and 163 is apart of the Puget Sound Energy and Pacific Corp windmill project. Hunters have to watch a safety video, sign their life away, etc. to hunt the property. For years the Pacific Corp area has been closed. Recently they have become more open to hunting. They have begun to open more of the area. PSE property has always been 50% open. It has pretty much stayed the same for the last 10 years. Bottom line....the last thing hunters need is for a fellow hunter to screw it up for everyone and get the entire area closed. It is a highly sensitive area to hunters.

In regards to the 3 point or better rule....
Every year I find dead does and bucks; usually 2 points. Every couple of years I witness someone shoot an illegal deer. I ususally turn the other way and hope they would do the ethical thing and turn themselves in, or pack it out and not let the deer go to waste. This year was a different story.

The offense....
It was the second day of modern deer season. I tagged out on opening day with a nice 3 x 3, so we decided we would do a little road hunting and recover from the prior days pack. We head up the road and see 20 deer standing out in the field. The field is posted every 15 feet "NO HUNTING". I happen to know the land owner, who is a fellow hunter. It is freshly seeded field. The field also houses 2 main Pacific Corp power facilities. These are the main facilities, which all the windmill power generated feeds into. On the backside of the field is a road, which leads to some state land. The adjacent road has a nice open area for hunters to park in. Basically it is a parking lot during hunting season. We notice 5 vehicles full of hunters parked and preparing to hunt. We later learn they were all together, as one large group of 11 hunters with a few young kids. The herd of 20 deer has two 2 points and a spike. The rest are does. We park and start checking out the deer via spotting scope. We watch the large group of 11 hunters trespass into the field. One of the adults raises his rifle TOWARDS THE MAIN POWER STATIONS and fires at a spike. He makes a terrible shot on the deer and it eventually goes down and dies. The Pacific Corp employees are waiving their hands and yelling at the hunter. Basically they were saying "WTF are you doing! You bleeping idoit!".  The group walks up to the deer and soon realizes that they are being watched by 6 vehicles on the main road, and another 5 vehicles on the state land road. Everyone was looking at this group like they were a bunch of "idiot/meatball hunters" wondering WTF they were thinking. Soon the offenders partners were looking embarassed and questioning WTF was their hunting buddy thinking. You could see it all over their faces. Soon to realize they are in deep poo poo. They decide to get the hell outta there before they get caught. They drive up and down both roads for everyone to see their license plate number. Then they decide....maybe we should turn around and go back. They go out and pick the deer up whole, and place it in the back of their Jeep. As they drive down the road, they then decide it would be smarter to HIDE THE DEER IN THE BACKSEAT!!!! Soon later they then decide it would be even better to throw the deer off into the ditch. As they were doing this, the sheriff pulls up and starts questioning them. After lieing the game warden arrives. Soon the confess etc. and the rest is history.

A couple of things....
I was told the offender is a teacher from the Tri Cities.
I was told they said they did not have cell phone service and were planning to call it in.
There was 20 deer.
They put the deer in the backseat.
The Sheriff stopped them first, prior to the game warden arriving 5 minutes later.
I was told the initial court date was 11/21/12, which is the same court date.
The deer was taken by the game department to a local butcher at the gun club, to be later donated to the shelter.

These are all identical FACTS to his story.

Sounds to me to be the same flipping guy. He is an idiot and deserves to get nailed. He even tried to say it was his 11 year old kid, who shot the deer. Said his kid thought it was a whitetail doe, since he is a youth and they can shoot them during the general season. This was the ONE STUPID HUNTER, who potentially could ruin the entire area for the hunters, whom access the windmill project land. Imagine if he misses and hit a main power grid, or injures an employee of the power company. The deer was a flipping yearly spike! This was the second day of the season on a highly traveled main road. No 3 point is going to be standing on a main road on the second day of the season. It is a freeway over there with hunters. Any ethical, smart hunter, should be smart enuff to know that it is likely NOT LEGAL. Even if it was, the land is POSTED FOR A REASON. This entire story is BS and this guy did everything he could to cover up his stupidity and his mistakes. To the point he tried to get his 11 year old kid to take the bullet for the offense. Take this guys hunting privledges and thanks but NO THANKS!! That is the real story.

Now let the speculation begin...

[deerslyr]

Well im not sure but it sounds like your making some assumptions here and I would of left it alone 

[skywalker253]

Well im not sure but it sounds like your making some assumptions here and I would of left it alone 

I waited a month or more to post this. I followed every post and made sure I got my facts straight before I posted. I did not want to make assumptions or jump to conclusions. Like I said...I have zero to gain out of this. All I am doing is putting it out there, that this guy is a lier and trying to twist his story to make himself look like he was the village idiot, who made an honest mistake. Later to regret it and depend on a public forum to advise him on how to handle his mistake. He is only sorry, because he and his buddies got caught by the Sheriff ditching the deer off. Lied to the Sheriff that they were involved in shooting the deer. Lied that his kid shot it etc. He is a POS and deserves to have his ass handed to him.

[csaaphill]

um no won't i guess lol since I'm here though i guess I will.
after reading his original post I kind of think he may have been trying to get away with something. But who really knows. Even if so he did do a good thing and at least try to get the deer out. Even a game warden would say they admire that. POS no but I don't know the guy personally might just be. before I get flamed ill read your whole post but felt I got the jest.
I may re post after but for now this is what I say.
Actually 163 might be part of the windmill areas 162 isn't 162 is more in the mountains and part of it is the rainwater area up in the blues. I'd gotten one of those permits didn't use it cuss i got mine  closer to home.
not sure but thinking your mixing up two diff occasions.
Thinking of what you say as a spike even bad optics would tell that unless very far off. then he shouldn't be shooting anyways. Youths can shoot does but wouldn't think they would mistake a spike for a doe. Maybe a yearling without showing points but not spikes that are showing. climbing up a hill during deer season saw what looked like a spike or1x2 was very small  though but still could tell that even with my optics. However yes he coudl just be lying strait up then you would be right.
I say leave the horse alone and move on now though he's in trouble as it is and hope he updates us all when done.

[skywalker253]

The offense happened on the dividing road of 162 and 163. Much of 162 is the blue mtn foothills, which dumps into 163 Marengo. I have said what I have said, and I will leave it alone. If they want to delete it, then delete it. I don't care. All I am saying is the guy is full of BS and derserves to get his. Nuff said!!

[boneaddict]

Definatley a different version of the story if it is the same event.  If its not the same event then there are two idiots out there.   

[Skyvalhunter]

And that is the internet for you. Got guys that gets their panties in a knot without really knowing the truth or just what someone else heard someone else say.

[ldjbuff]

Either way all of this gives hunters a bad name. Thanks real story

[longstevo]

Why do guys come on this board and tell stories about them breaking the law, accident or not, directly involved or not.

The reception is never good.