Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?

[lokidog]

If this is your very first criminal offense and if your attorney is worth his or her salt, you will probably be spared any jail time. You are more than likely looking at a fine in the neighborhood of $500-$1,000, loss of hunting rights for a period of time (two years), and probably two years of probation. Again, all this could be more or less depending on the deal that is worked out with the prosecutor. But,remember our criminal justice system is based on a points system, meaning the more criminal offenses you have on your record the more points you have, the stiffer the penalty you will receive.

This violation requires a MANDATORY $2,000 civil fine paid to WDFW upon a guilty conviction, in addition to any criminal fines set by a judge.

Would this be mitigated in any way if he had called immediately before gutting/tagging/moving the deer?  Curious if there is actually any benefit to doing the "right" thing, other than having a clearer conscience.

[bigtex]

If this is your very first criminal offense and if your attorney is worth his or her salt, you will probably be spared any jail time. You are more than likely looking at a fine in the neighborhood of $500-$1,000, loss of hunting rights for a period of time (two years), and probably two years of probation. Again, all this could be more or less depending on the deal that is worked out with the prosecutor. But,remember our criminal justice system is based on a points system, meaning the more criminal offenses you have on your record the more points you have, the stiffer the penalty you will receive.

This violation requires a MANDATORY $2,000 civil fine paid to WDFW upon a guilty conviction, in addition to any criminal fines set by a judge.

Would this be mitigated in any way if he had called immediately before gutting/tagging/moving the deer?  Curious if there is actually any benefit to doing the "right" thing, other than having a clearer conscience.

No. There was talk several years ago abou creating some type of "accident" killing of wildlife charge  in these circumstances when a friend of a legislator got in trouble, it went no where.

As I said, along with the conviction of killing a big game animal out of season (including 2pt in 3pt) requires a MANDATORY criminal wildlife penalty assessment, in this case it would be $2,000.

Now what a judge can do is say, no criminal penalties, just the civil penalty. To show the opposite extreme, the highest criminal penalty is $5,000 plus the $2,000 civil penalty.

[firefighter4607]

This violation requires a MANDATORY $2,000 civil fine paid to WDFW upon a guilty conviction, in addition to any criminal fines set by a judge.

bigtex can they possibly take his rifle and vehicle if he if found guilty? I thought they could take anything used while commiting the crime.

[bigtex]

This violation requires a MANDATORY $2,000 civil fine paid to WDFW upon a guilty conviction, in addition to any criminal fines set by a judge.

bigtex can they possibly take his rifle and vehicle if he if found guilty? I thought they could take anything used while commiting the crime.

A judge could order it be surrendered. But if the officers didnt take it during the contact 99.9% of the time the judge won't say anything about it.

[akashasdaddy]

If this is your very first criminal offense and if your attorney is worth his or her salt, you will probably be spared any jail time. You are more than likely looking at a fine in the neighborhood of $500-$1,000, loss of hunting rights for a period of time (two years), and probably two years of probation. Again, all this could be more or less depending on the deal that is worked out with the prosecutor. But,remember our criminal justice system is based on a points system, meaning the more criminal offenses you have on your record the more points you have, the stiffer the penalty you will receive.

This violation requires a MANDATORY $2,000 civil fine paid to WDFW upon a guilty conviction, in addition to any criminal fines set by a judge.

I wasn't sure of the penalties imposed by WDFW, everything related to the criminal charges should be close but they are estimates that will be handled through negotiations between the defense attorney and prosecutor.

[jeepguy]

Trying to justify ur by doing wat u seem eight does not make it okay. Its ur responseability to know ur target u messed up time too pay why would even put it inside ur truck ur whole story is messed up and u have no excuse. When there is antler restrictions u follow them no exceptions. I will not make this mistake ever why cause i make sure sure 100%  of my target before i pull the hammer down ur situation brings no sympathy. Ur a idiot

[h20hunter]

"Ur a idiot"

May want to read up on forum do's and dont's. I'm not sure why that little tag on the end of your post rubbed me the wrong way. I thought you made a good point up until then. Maybe being an interned tough guy calling people names is fun..I don't know. I would use better grammer and not text lingo. You may have wanted to say "you are an idiot" but doing so makes the rest of your statement, which I said I agree with, just get lost in the name calling.

Just saying.

[Bob33]

Jeepguy, someone with your grammar skills might wish to look in the mirror first before calling someone else an idiot.

[wildmanoutdoors]

I got seasick reading Jeepguys post.

[Atroxus]

Trying to justify ur by doing wat u seem eight does not make it okay. Its ur responseability to know ur target u messed up time too pay why would even put it inside ur truck ur whole story is messed up and u have no excuse. When there is antler restrictions u follow them no exceptions. I will not make this mistake ever why cause i make sure sure 100%  of my target before i pull the hammer down ur situation brings no sympathy. Ur a idiot

First, the OP said he wasn't looking for sympathy. Second, with spelling/grammar that terrible, you shouldn't be calling anyone an idiot. Third, even if you did have impeccable grammar/spelling there is no call for personal insults here.

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[bigtex]

If this is your very first criminal offense and if your attorney is worth his or her salt, you will probably be spared any jail time. You are more than likely looking at a fine in the neighborhood of $500-$1,000, loss of hunting rights for a period of time (two years), and probably two years of probation. Again, all this could be more or less depending on the deal that is worked out with the prosecutor. But,remember our criminal justice system is based on a points system, meaning the more criminal offenses you have on your record the more points you have, the stiffer the penalty you will receive.

This violation requires a MANDATORY $2,000 civil fine paid to WDFW upon a guilty conviction, in addition to any criminal fines set by a judge.

I wasn't sure of the penalties imposed by WDFW, everything related to the criminal charges should be close but they are estimates that will be handled through negotiations between the defense attorney and prosecutor.

The civil fine is including in the sentencing by a judge. The fine will be paid to the county court, who then forwards the money into the WDFW account

[Huntbear]

I got seasick reading Jeepguys post.

[brackens]

First off lawyer up.  I was charged with something similar when I did not completely notch the tag on my deer, only poked a hole through the day and month.  What you need to know is that you cannot defer this.  If you defer you plead guilty.  There is no deferment for what is essentially poaching.  As a teacher you cannot have a gross misdemeanor on your record.  This will be a mandatory notification to your district.  It cost me $3500 and I did some community service and took a hunter safety class.  If you want to know the name of my attorney pm me.  You tag says you are from the Tri-Cities.  I grew up there and can give you some names of good lawyers there.  Finally, just focus on the people trying to help you, not the "you should of done this" crowd.  Owning up to what you have done does not mean you should not try to get this handled out of the courts through a plea deal.

[jeepguy]

i hope he knows and learned his lesson ,ban him to archerery only,previous removed and apology

[BK Dave]

I think it's safe to say Supermatt has now got all the advice he'll ever need Ever! or is thoroughly confused!!

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