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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #180 on: November 26, 2012, 03:27:41 PM »
I do agree that these thread are really good for getting us thinking about what if scenarios.  It's good food for thought. :tup:  It's good to learn from other people mistakes.....so, thank you Supermatt for starting this discussion. :tup:
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #181 on: November 26, 2012, 03:36:22 PM »
Our hunter education classes usually have a session with an enforcement officer. He advises the students they are responsible for knowing the regulations. If a mistake is made, own up to it and accept the consequences. Trying to hide something or deceive them is going to exponentially increase the penalties if caught. As was pointed out, when they're asking you questions they typically already know the answer.

To each his own.  I would tell them I will talk to my attorney about talking to them and leave it at that.  It is plain stupid to talk to any law enforcement if you are being questioned prior to talking to a lawyer.  Even if you do confess, it is better to work a deal through your attorney prior to doing so.  Unless, of course, you are like Curly and just want to get the most severe punishment possible.
I did not say to talk to law enforcement nor to avoid working towards a better deal.  Accepting consequences to me means not being a victim and blaming others for your own actions.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #182 on: November 26, 2012, 03:46:54 PM »
Our hunter education classes usually have a session with an enforcement officer. He advises the students they are responsible for knowing the regulations. If a mistake is made, own up to it and accept the consequences. Trying to hide something or deceive them is going to exponentially increase the penalties if caught. As was pointed out, when they're asking you questions they typically already know the answer.

To each his own.  I would tell them I will talk to my attorney about talking to them and leave it at that.  It is plain stupid to talk to any law enforcement if you are being questioned prior to talking to a lawyer.  Even if you do confess, it is better to work a deal through your attorney prior to doing so.  Unless, of course, you are like Curly and just want to get the most severe punishment possible.
I did not say to talk to law enforcement nor to avoid working towards a better deal.  Accepting consequences to me means not being a victim and blaming others for your own actions.

I took your statement that you shouldn't try to hide anything and law enforcement already knows the answer if they are asking you questions to mean don't hide things from law enforcement.  Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #183 on: November 26, 2012, 03:47:45 PM »
I did not say to talk to law enforcement nor to avoid working towards a better deal.  Accepting consequences to me means not being a victim and blaming others for your own actions.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #184 on: November 26, 2012, 04:03:58 PM »
Nothing you say to a cop can benefit you in any way, only harm.

Absolutely untrue.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #185 on: November 26, 2012, 04:15:44 PM »
They look legal at 200 yards with a Tasco 3x9 scope standing in front of a tree with lots of limbs.  I ran across quite a few big two points attached to skulls when I hunted the breaks on the Snake river in Eastern Washington.  I think it happens more than one would think and most guys just jam out and leave them.  I had thought they were all winter kill, now I am rethinking it.
The snake river breaks get really big two points and I have seen first hand two bucks shot that were both two points from a high vantage point and found a third one dead in one season and at least one every yeare I have hunted there!  One two point was about 24" wide.  Watched the buck in the spotting scope assuming that this group of guys in which I just warned their buddy that there was a huge two point in the draw they were going to walk down.  He told his buddies well I stood there and they said ok!  Then the walk right through the draw and about 600yards down the hill jump it out of the brush within 100 yards and shoot it and start screaming hell yeah got it.  Walk up to it and start dragging in into the brush and run out of there.  I had an off duty sherriff with me hunting and we both saw it and called it in but they didn't get there in time and I couldn't get up the hill to my truck and drive around in time to get to them but they were not around the next year but were back party hunting muzzleloader about 7 years later.  Oh and no binos on there neck no of them! STUPID PEOPLE

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #186 on: November 26, 2012, 06:24:06 PM »
I cant understand why people can risk fines and lose their hunting rights over an animal, and for the people who do, you deserve everything you get coming to you. Getting a lawyer just tells people that its ok and they get a little slap on the hand. The honest mistake here is not getting your eyes checked. Put your weapons away until you count to a real 3.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #187 on: November 26, 2012, 06:48:19 PM »
HEY  ,if you guys out who shoot 2 points thinking they are legal shouldnt be out there period . Check out some of these nice bucks ,now think how many more would be availble to pursue if you didnt pop off all the two's . Looking forsupport on your act here is a disgrace,besides who in heck would stick a deer inside the cab if something wasnt up my guess is if you didnt get BUSTED no  one would of this pathetic act.

you just sound greedy...  all about how big the deer is... might as well start huggin trees.   :twocents:

to me, the ones that shouldn't be out there are the ones that come up with these dumb laws that are bound to get deer killed and left.  it's common sense, and no matter how you whine and moan and try to call people names, this law will ALWAYS get bucks killed and left. 

i don't know if they did it on purpose or not, but innocent until proven guilty...  unfortunately, most doesn't seem to have the slightest clue as to what that really means and how important it is.

however, to answer your question "that you could answer yourself if you had the slightest interest in trying to think for yourself", a person that didn't want to leave a deer in the woods to go to waste might be the type of person that would put the deer in the cab.

i just hope you hold yourself to such high standards when you mess up.... 

and as far as the person in question, i hope he is telling the truth and didn't shoot the 2 pt on purpose.... impossible for any of us to know, but since I don't know, I'll leave it at that.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #188 on: November 26, 2012, 07:32:59 PM »
Nothing you say to a cop can benefit you in any way, only harm.

Absolutely untrue.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #189 on: November 26, 2012, 07:51:07 PM »
Hey guys, I promise I'm not ignoring you or giving up on this thread. I started it, so I will see it through to the end, if for no other reason so that people can learn from it. if I had read a thread like this one I would've handled things very differently.
My original court date got moved to this Wednesday. I won't comment anymore until all the legal proceedings are over, but I will let you all know how it turns out once it's done.

Thanks again for all the helpful advice. There are a lot of good people on here!

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #190 on: November 26, 2012, 08:28:51 PM »
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #191 on: November 26, 2012, 09:09:46 PM »
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #192 on: November 26, 2012, 09:27:42 PM »
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #193 on: November 27, 2012, 07:49:52 PM »
Good luck Hope they go easy on ya. But like another Guy said dont shot small bucks and you will never have this problem again.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #194 on: November 29, 2012, 01:02:41 AM »
WTF. Lets put it this way  for all you people that do not understand. RULES ARE MADE TO FOLLOW,KNOW YOUR TARGET ,DONT BE A DUMB ASS LIKE THIS GUY AND *censored* UP AND SHOOT A TWO  YES 2 POINT IN A THREE  , YES 3 POINT AREAANYONE THAT DEFENDS THIS STUPID SON OF A BITCH IS A *censored*IN IDIOT AND PROBLY VOTED FOR THE *censored*, FOLLOW THE *censored*IN RULES BITCHES  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :tup:

 


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