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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #255 on: November 30, 2012, 11:53:43 AM »
I was answering RT's question, that insinuated the poor soul had no options.

And yes, he said he was going to but you snooze you lose.  I'm guessing he had a cell phone and cell signal, make some phone calls.  I'm not judging, I'm just saying.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #256 on: November 30, 2012, 11:56:54 AM »
I was answering RT's question, that insinuated the poor soul had no options.

And yes, he said he was going to but you snooze you lose.  I'm guessing he had a cell phone and cell signal, make some phone calls.  I'm not judging, I'm just saying.


I'm only going by the story he told on here. What if you don't own a cell phone? Wouldn't you drive home, or perhaps to the nearest pay phone (do those exist anymore?) and then make the call?

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #257 on: November 30, 2012, 03:12:24 PM »
Sorry Kracker, but it seems a little funny to me that the same person who is posting questions about how to interpret the hunting regulations is so passionate about another hunter acidentally breaking the law.  If you are not careful you may end up a "poacher" too.  Before asking the question on an open forum you were under the impression that you could hunt modern season with an archery tag and bow  :dunno: 

I am glad the OP seems to be trying to do the right thing, and I am glad that he is having to live up to his mistakes, but i wouldnt go as far as calling him a poacher. 

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #258 on: November 30, 2012, 03:14:28 PM »
He's not a poacher in my opinion either.  :twocents:
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #259 on: November 30, 2012, 03:23:17 PM »
Sorry Kracker, but it seems a little funny to me that the same person who is posting questions about how to interpret the hunting regulations is so passionate about another hunter acidentally breaking the law.  If you are not careful you may end up a "poacher" too.  Before asking the question on an open forum you were under the impression that you could hunt modern season with an archery tag and bow  :dunno: 

I am glad the OP seems to be trying to do the right thing, and I am glad that he is having to live up to his mistakes, but i wouldnt go as far as calling him a poacher.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #260 on: November 30, 2012, 05:17:18 PM »
Sorry Kracker, but it seems a little funny to me that the same person who is posting questions about how to interpret the hunting regulations is so passionate about another hunter acidentally breaking the law.  If you are not careful you may end up a "poacher" too.  Before asking the question on an open forum you were under the impression that you could hunt modern season with an archery tag and bow  :dunno: 

I am glad the OP seems to be trying to do the right thing, and I am glad that he is having to live up to his mistakes, but i wouldnt go as far as calling him a poacher.

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #261 on: November 30, 2012, 05:33:40 PM »
Calling it in seems like the right thing to do...  In a perfect world, it would be.

There is a lot of risk in calling it in...  hard to say who you're going to get on the other end of the line.  Reasonable person or whacko that goes through your truck and takes your stuff (if not your truck)...  who knows what else they'd try to do depending on their attitude/mood.  (Just look at some of the law worshipers here...  I'd sure hate to think of them having autority over me or one of my family members in such a case.  As if their idea of right and wrong was better than ours.)   

I wont judge either way.  Take a lot of courage to call it in, but I guess you just take your lumps?


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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #262 on: November 30, 2012, 05:43:20 PM »
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This is a prime example of how this state is so screwed up...I would be willing to bet that the OP "Thought" this deer was a 3 point hoping for an eye guard..They need to take this stupid ass rule out of the equation, that would save a hell of a lot of 2 points from being killed..But we all know this state is all about the all mighty "Dollar"...3 points on the main beam only. Eye guards should never be considered a point.

Good lick to the OP on your court case..

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Better idea, let's just say 3 pts on a side and size doesn't matter....  Plus, let's not make it a law, just a rule..... or something like that.  Why must every silly idea become a law punishable by $$$ and threat?  To err is human... 

This would also stop every goofball calling someone a poacher when they make a mistake?

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #263 on: November 30, 2012, 09:17:48 PM »
the shot was accidental, but on top of that smuggling it out, hiding it in his back seat and trying to drive home and being busted on the road by the cops with an illegal kill in his vehicle isnt poaching? are you kidding me bobcat, did you just say that's not poaching?  :o
yes and I agree not poaching.....accidents happen this state would rather an accident become a wasted animal, than an honest attempt to right the wrong by not just leaving the animal to become coyote food.  Its sad that we live in a place so cluttered with laws and laws where money not morals is the reason for enforcement.  If our government actually gave a crap it would always try and salvage meat from every situation, accidents would not be treated the same as intentional killing by slobs who then leave carcasses but take heads....if our state put the meat on the animal ahead of the damn money to be made on the horns it would go a long way to cleaning up poaching by true slobs who would just shoot animals to see them die or to take their horns.


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poach 2  (pch)
v. poached, poach·ing, poach·es
v.intr.
1. To trespass on another's property in order to take fish or game.
2. To take fish or game in a forbidden area.
3. To become muddy or broken up from being trampled. Used of land.
4. To sink into soft earth when walking.
5.
a. To take or appropriate something unfairly or illegally.
b. Sports To play a ball out of turn or in another's territory, as in doubles tennis.
v.tr.
1. To trespass on (another's property) for fishing or hunting.
2. To take (fish or game) illegally.
3. To make (land) muddy or broken up by trampling.
4.
a. To take or appropriate unfairly or illegally.
b. Sports To play (a ball) out of turn or in another's territory.
[Obsolete French pocher, to poke, thrust, intrude, from Old French pochier, to poke, gouge, of Germanic origin.]

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #264 on: November 30, 2012, 09:40:38 PM »
Ya ill chime in I guess. he did say he was going to call it in when he got home. So in my thinking it's not actually a poached animal. So shouldn't be treated as such.
been really letting this one go by though. hadn't really wanted to get into it all lol.
anyways I wish the guy luck whatever punishment they give don't pout it could of been worse.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #265 on: November 30, 2012, 10:05:41 PM »
Whatever you do, don't take a long-arning photo of you with the buck and post it here.....

Some of the internet long arm police will crucify you on the spot.....   Sheesh.
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #266 on: November 30, 2012, 10:08:52 PM »
lol
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #267 on: November 30, 2012, 10:42:17 PM »
Why would he post? Some of you.have him a covicted  murderer over a frickin deer!
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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #268 on: December 01, 2012, 09:16:59 AM »
In my opinion some of the blame is on the wdfw. They need to improve their hunter education courses.  Lots of unsafe and unethical acts out there. I mean if this guy wasn't completely sure, why did he shoot? 

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Re: Shot a 2 point, going to court, any advice?
« Reply #269 on: December 01, 2012, 09:18:41 AM »
I sure wouldn't blame hunter ed courses. 



In his post he says: "We saw one buck in the group that we both would have sworn on a bible that was a 3 point."  So, apparently he was "sure"............he just wasn't right.  Doesn't mean that WDFW shares any blame in it.........
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