I passed on many doe this season waiting for a buck to fill my muzzy tag. Since this is the last weekend for me I decided to tag a doe. I left home and 20 min later I filled the tag. There are many more where I hunt but I'm not telling. Just wanted to let you know that when you put in the time and know where the deer are- it pays off. I have filled my deer tags every year since I was 16. It is not that hard, just lots of miles on the boots to figure out where they like to be. As for elk- I hunt western rifle. More of a go where they live and hope for a lucky day. So far I eat lots of elk tag soup.