Elk Rumors

[WDFW-SUX]

I got no problem.  The man paid the money, he earned it, and it will do alot of good for elk projects in Washington.  Thanks for the donation 

[yelp]

I agree...That thing was taking up too much habitat...now there is more room down there for some other bulls to grow!

[HawkenBob]

WOW! What a beast.
The man used his resources thats for sure. The only thing Id have done different if I was that hunter with that kind of money is been a big part of the whole process. Id have wanted to be right by my paid guides learning from them and talking good stories at night in my 8000 sq foot polished diamond plate wall fortress.
Id have wanted to be there for the whole thing.

It would have been nice to see someone from this state get it with a long awaited draw.

[Blackstar]

This tag stirs up a lot of emotions in hunters.  The typical emotion is jealousy.  We all want what we cannot have.  We all would like to be stinking rich and to be able to hunt anywhere at anytime.  But the sad fact is most of us just barely make it through our monthly bills.  This gentleman happens to have the kind of money we all would love to have.  Him spending the money he did on this hunt is like the average guy buying a candy bar.  Its no big deal to him.  If YOU had unlimited money, would you not buy this tag?  Surely to say no is to lie.  Perhaps you would approach the hunt in a different way, but I bet the money would be spent on the tag.  So the naysayers are typically jealous.  That is a normal reaction.   Its human nature.

The hunt is LEGAL.  The government allows it.  No wrong was done.  No laws broken.  That said, hunters should not have a huge problem with it.  If it was illegal, yes, you should be mad, and rightfully so.  But its NOT.  You cant argue with that.  So guys, bottom line is you are going to have to deal with it.  It will not change.  It happens in every western state every year.  Always has.  Always will.  

This will not satisfy those of you that are against this type of tag.  But logic never sways fanatics from their way of thinking.

[Idabooner]

well put DOUBLELUNG,  Nice to see someone that can sit back and analyze rather than jump on the bandwagon with the rest.

                    +1

[skynyr]

That's a beauterriffic bull.  Does anybody in here know anything at all about the hunter who took it?? Or is this just your drive by analysis. This might be a stretch but has anyone considered that maybe the guy has limited time on his hands because he is working rather spending his time on some forum bashing other hunters. Maybe that's how he got all that money... working for it. Or maybe he was born with a silver spoon. It's none of my business. I'm sure his guide has the same sentiments. I'd love to be able to make a living taking money from guys like this.  I'd rather see him doing something like this rather spending his money/time on stomping on someone else's good time. Not that anyone in here would do that I like the idea that this guy is putting in more than his fair share of money into the state....... that's less that has to come out of my pocket.

Very well put Blackstar!

[EastWaViking]

I just hope to find his little brother this coming week!

[wastickslinger]

I'd rather have little brother. He will crush the typical record.

[tlbradford]

I'd rather have little brother. He will crush the typical record.

That is the one in my horse trailer.

I don't hold anything against this gentleman.  In some respects, I feel sorry for him.  His life is reduced to trying to cram in and create special moments by using his vast resources.  I have a hard time believing he feels a huge sense of accomplishment, or pride in hunting this way.  It is a trophy to hang on the wall and to gain noteriety of being the man that shot the record bull.  Unless he is an incredibly shallow human being, he would probably look you in the eye and tell you that he would much rather leave the rat race for a couple of weeks and actually enjoy the hunting experience. 

He does not have that opportunity, and all of you should appreciate being able to do what he cannot.  Money doesn't always buy you happiness.

[backwoods_boy]

 

[Lowedog]

It's also not much different, in my book, than Joe Hunters lobbying the Game department for permit opportunities to kill mule deer bucks on winter range, the few days of the year they are rut dumb and vulnerable when passing on their genes ... these harvests occur at the expense of the general hunting public's opportunity to take them.

Big differance between Joe Hunter drawing a late tag and going DIY on anything than what happens on these high profile auction tags.  This bull was pimped out and that to me is the sickening thing.  

More power to the guy for having the money to buy the tag and thanks for spending it in our state to enrich our elk herds.

These type of hunts are no more of an accomplishment than if they were high fence hunts.  The biggest differance is that the hunters get to enter their name into the record books because it's considered fair chase.

When Joe Hunter draws a permit he doesn't have a team of paid watchers keeping track of trophy animal so he can fly in and take the shot.  No finders fee. Most of the late buck permit tags are filled by the first four point buck Joe comes across.  Don't forget also that these late permit buck hunts occur in November and that the general season back in th good old days when people used to trophy hunt during the general season extended into November.  Essentially Joe just wants to have an oppurtunity to hunt when bucks are rutting and the migration kicks in like he used to back in the day.

I like your comment about the snowmobiles and helicopter though!  I remember that.  Those two spent a lot of time hunting that year though.  they didn't pay some one to sit on an elk or find one for them, they paid a helicopter pilot to haul their elk out.

-Lowedog

[huntnphool]

Don't forget also that these late permit buck hunts occur in November and that the general season back in th good old days when people used to trophy hunt during the general season extended into November.  Essentially Joe just wants to have an oppurtunity to hunt when bucks are rutting and the migration kicks in like he used to back in the day.

  I wouldn't imagine there are too many of us on here that actually hunted back then so the majority of the people on here don't realize this, not their fault. I little do diligence on their part however would prevent some of these obtuse comments, well said Lowedog.

[TheKid#10]

It kinda feels like I lost an old friend.    He was truly a Washington legend. I wish he could have lived forever spreading his seed in countless more cows, giving us "average Joe's" hope and filling our dreams to one day see or have a shot at this remarkable animal..... Maybe one of his sons in a few years?

KID

[MichaelJ]

Don't forget also that these late permit buck hunts occur in November and that the general season back in th good old days when people used to trophy hunt during the general season extended into November.  Essentially Joe just wants to have an oppurtunity to hunt when bucks are rutting and the migration kicks in like he used to back in the day.

  I wouldn't imagine there are too many of us on here that actually hunted back then so the majority of the people on here don't realize this, not their fault. I little do diligence on their part however would prevent some of these obtuse comments, well said Lowedog.

Hell I'm 19 and knew about the change in seasons since I was 15... It is pretty common knowledge to those that like hunting.  Consider that I'm the youngest of 4 children and the first one in my entire family to hunt and I still know this.....

As for this hunt, congrats to the guy.  I would definitely buy the tag but would use my own resources to hunt this bull...  But that's how I would do things, apparently this guy is different.  Like others say, he can't feel too much of an accomplishment for just pulling the trigger.  I honestly wonder if he packed out a quarter of the bull or even the head/horns....

Michael

[huntnphool]

That might be a good question for any geneticists on the site, how many cows would this bull have bred in the last few years and how likely is it that offspring will develope the same results