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http://stevenscountycattlemen.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/wedge-pack-removal-costs-set-for-repeat/

"Wedge pack removal costs set for repeat
Posted on November 16, 2012 by stevenscountycattlemen
November 15, 2012

SCCA calls for proactive management from WDFW

The $76,500 cost for removing the “Wedge” wolf pack in Stevens County this summer is likely to be a repeated expense if management of the animal does not change, according to the Stevens County Cattlemen’s Association.

SCCA President Scott Nielsen said the reported $76,500 bill to eliminate 6 members of the pack could have been prevented if better management by the Washington Fish and Wildlife Department was in place.

“The last time we were in Olympia, we heard from people who were upset that the pack was removed and the truth is we are upset too,” said Nielsen. “We believe if WDFW had removed the individual problem wolves sooner, eliminating the whole pack may not have been necessary and a considerable amount of taxpayer money would have been saved.”

The circumstances leading to the pack removal started in early May 2012, as the Diamond M Ranch near Laurier began to lose calves to wolf attacks. As the attacks worsened and injured or dead calves was a near daily occurrence, WDFW hesitated about what to do, dithered on confirming wolf activity and did not take appropriate action, said Nielsen.

Despite non-lethal methods employed by the Diamond M, including moving cattle and range riders, the pack depredation could not be deterred.

WDFW finally removed the Wedge pack in September with an aerial crew after the agency had already expended over $54,000 to deploy on-the-ground personnel for 39 days. The land-based efforts only resulted in the removal of one wolf.

 By the time the wolves were removed, the pack had killed 10 calves and injured 8 more at the Diamond M. The financial loss to the ranch due to death, injury, mutilation and stress on their cattle caused by wolves is estimated to be over $100,000, according to the Diamond M.

 This scenario is set for a repeat, according to Nielsen, unless state wolf management changes.

“What we hope the Department has learned from this is that wolves and livestock do not mix. We have eight more wolf packs in our region that are likely to find penned horses, grazing cattle and backyard goats easier to kill and more appealing than searching for their natural prey,” said Nielsen. “If we don’t reduce the number of wolves in our area, we will be looking at a ‘Diamond M’ type situation again in the near future.”

Nielsen said SCCA is advocating for a reduction in the number of wolves in the region; both by reducing pack size and relocating some of the Eastern Washington packs to other parts of the state.

“One thing that we have heard from other parts of the state is how much they want wolves to be on the Washington landscape. We have an overabundance of these animals in our area and know that relocation can help reestablish them throughout Washington,” Nielsen noted.

Nielsen noted SCCA is also advocating to delist the wolf in the Eastern Washington region so there can be a needed adjustment in management.

“We need to transition from a recovery mindset to a management mindset in this state,” he said. “The numbers are there, the conflicts are easy to predict, so let’s deal with reality.” '
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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 05:16:19 PM »
Yet if a rancher throws up his hands after repeated notifications to WDFW and or the Feds and finally kills the attacking wolves hisself he is demonized by the enviro's and cited by the authorities for multiple crimes.  Ends up financially broke, felonies, misdemeanors and no restitution for his livestock losses.  He pays "wolf restitution" money which goes to removing depredating packs which is his only justice in the whole thing.

I know!

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2012, 12:47:55 AM »
I watched this lastnight  :bash: what a joke  :yeah: they spent over
$ 370,000.00 on wolf management just last year :dunno: :bash: :bash: : you have people not agreeing with it because it happened on public lands which they feel was not right ....  :dunno: then comparing a wolf to the cost of a discover pass  :yike: whats up with that ? :o


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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2012, 06:14:59 AM »
We, the hunters in the state, could of killed them for under a grand !!! Idiots is in Olympia.... :mor: :stup:
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2012, 09:00:10 AM »
You,the hunters in this state,won't see a wolf season until the west side managment goals have been reached!!  :twocents:

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2012, 09:40:31 AM »
You,the hunters in this state,won't see a wolf season until the west side managment goals have been reached!!  :twocents:

That's right. I see you're up and at 'em early this morning!
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2012, 11:15:25 PM »
We, the hunters in the state, could of killed them for under a grand !!! Idiots is in Olympia.... :mor: :stup:

I think you mean......for a profit to the state.

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2012, 11:19:52 AM »
We, the hunters in the state, could of killed them for under a grand !!! Idiots is in Olympia.... :mor: :stup:

I think you mean......for a profit to the state.

Yes, wolf tags $1000 each for residents.
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2012, 11:35:53 AM »
Shhhh! Dave Ware might actually think guys will pay that. Methinks a $18 tag will be fine. Sell one and you made money. I bet the first year would sell a heap.....especially if they swore to use the proceeds from the wolf tag sales to go 100% to elk feeding.....yep, it will never happen.

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2012, 05:07:13 PM »
Shhhh! Dave Ware might actually think guys will pay that. Methinks a $18 tag will be fine. Sell one and you made money. I bet the first year would sell a heap.....especially if they swore to use the proceeds from the wolf tag sales to go 100% to elk feeding.....yep, it will never happen.

No kidding, never, ever happen !,
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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 09:46:31 PM »
There are still wolves in the wedge, seen tracks just a few days ago less than 10 miles from the Diamond M


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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 09:54:42 PM »
Shhhh! Dave Ware might actually think guys will pay that. Methinks a $18 tag will be fine. Sell one and you made money. I bet the first year would sell a heap.....especially if they swore to use the proceeds from the wolf tag sales to go 100% to elk feeding.....yep, it will never happen.
It might work if the permits were draw only and you had to purchase an application for each category: Quality Wolf, Youth Wolf, Disabled Wolf, Age 65 and older Wolf, Big Bad Wolf...
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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2012, 07:21:28 AM »
Shhhh! Dave Ware might actually think guys will pay that. Methinks a $18 tag will be fine. Sell one and you made money. I bet the first year would sell a heap.....especially if they swore to use the proceeds from the wolf tag sales to go 100% to elk feeding.....yep, it will never happen.
It might work if the permits were draw only and you had to purchase an application for each category: Quality Wolf, Youth Wolf, Disabled Wolf, Age 65 and older Wolf, Big Bad Wolf...

You read my mind.

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2012, 08:27:46 AM »
 :chuckle:
Big bad wolf... That was good......

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Re: Stevens Co. Cattlemen Warn of Future Wolf Problems Like Wedge Pack
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2012, 09:01:08 AM »
You,the hunters in this state,won't see a wolf season until the west side managment goals have been reached!!  :twocents:

Maybe WDFW needs some help in increasing the numbers on the west side... Anyone feel like setting up some live traps and transporting to say Normandy Park  or maybe Lake Washington Park
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