AR-15 Kits at Midway

[Wea300mag]

I'm looking to buy one of these kits from Midway USA. It looks like they come with everything but the lower receiver, optics, and magazines. I would appreciate input from anybody out there who has been down this route. Was it worth the cost savings? Where did you purchase the stripped lower receiver? Any other pluses or minuses?

Thanks

[hillbilli]

Not sure what kits midway has in,  havent looked lately, Bought my kit from an outfit called Joebob outfitters, and all the pieces are all Rock River. Got the lower rcver ( Del-Ton) from Skagit Srms.. shop around alot, see if they say who made the parts.. lots of guides on line on how to put it all together..

[Wea300mag]

The kits at Midway are Del-Ton, DPMS, and, CMMG. I'm looking for an inexpensive way to learn more so putting a kit together should meet my goal. After I get my feet under me, I will probably build a more piece by piece (higher end) AR.

[szairborne]

The kits give you everything minus the lower receiver. If you want all your parts in one shot its the way to go. If you would rather piece your AR together with parts you specifically pick out, then a kit wont work. Its really up to you and how picky you want to be. Personally i picked out every part for my build.

Shayne

[lee]

I ordered one of the Del-Ton M4 kits 2 weeks ago from Midway. It is backordered till Jan 31, 2013 

Funny thing is that the kit is $15.00 cheaper at Midway than getting it direct from the Del-Ton site. 

Lee

[thinkingman]

Palmetto State Armory has a decent reputation and decent prices.
Stripped lowers can be purchased at Surplus Ammo for a good price and quality.

[xd2005]

Palmetto State Armory has a decent reputation and decent prices.
Stripped lowers can be purchased at Surplus Ammo for a good price and quality.

Was just looking at Surplus Ammo's website and noticed lower prices sure jumped ( I assume in-store prices jumped as well, although technically different companies). Prices are $20 higher than about a month ago.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I have several different brands of lowers, but they all have Rock River parts kits with 2-Stage National Match triggers in them.  You can get parts kits with the standard trigger pretty cheap, but you will not like the trigger.  Unless you like to hit the trigger with a rock to get the gun to fire! 

[Wea300mag]

I ordered one of the Del-Ton M4 kits 2 weeks ago from Midway. It is backordered till Jan 31, 2013 

The DPMS kit I was looking at yesterday was backordered until today but that changed to Dec 14th overnight.

[Wea300mag]

I have several different brands of lowers, but they all have Rock River parts kits with 2-Stage National Match triggers in them.  You can get parts kits with the standard trigger pretty cheap, but you will not like the trigger.  Unless you like to hit the trigger with a rock to get the gun to fire! 

Great info, thanks!

[Atroxus]

I ordered one of the Del-Ton M4 kits 2 weeks ago from Midway. It is backordered till Jan 31, 2013 

Funny thing is that the kit is $15.00 cheaper at Midway than getting it direct from the Del-Ton site. 

Lee

Maybe they are selling them at a loss and hope you will purchase a lower to go with the kit and make up for it? 

[actionshooter]

Palmetto State Armory has a decent reputation and decent prices.
Stripped lowers can be purchased at Surplus Ammo for a good price and quality.

Was just looking at Surplus Ammo's website and noticed lower prices sure jumped ( I assume in-store prices jumped as well, although technically different companies). Prices are $20 higher than about a month ago.

Ya, think that was a little speculation (gouging) due to the election.

[xd2005]

Palmetto State Armory has a decent reputation and decent prices.
Stripped lowers can be purchased at Surplus Ammo for a good price and quality.

Was just looking at Surplus Ammo's website and noticed lower prices sure jumped ( I assume in-store prices jumped as well, although technically different companies). Prices are $20 higher than about a month ago.

Ya, think that was a little speculation (gouging) due to the election.

Absolutely. I picked a couple up, knowing even I was overpaying by $10-$20 per lower.

[thinkingman]

I have several different brands of lowers, but they all have Rock River parts kits with 2-Stage National Match triggers in them.  You can get parts kits with the standard trigger pretty cheap, but you will not like the trigger.  Unless you like to hit the trigger with a rock to get the gun to fire! 

I absolutely support the RR parts/FC.
I have the two-stage in my RR Predator Pursuit and love it.
I am thinking the collapsible buttstock/picatinny porcupine crowd probably wouldn't get much benefit from it.
The ObamaScare2.0 gouging won't last long.

[Atroxus]

I have several different brands of lowers, but they all have Rock River parts kits with 2-Stage National Match triggers in them.  You can get parts kits with the standard trigger pretty cheap, but you will not like the trigger.  Unless you like to hit the trigger with a rock to get the gun to fire! 

I absolutely support the RR parts/FC.
I have the two-stage in my RR Predator Pursuit and love it.
I am thinking the collapsible buttstock/picatinny porcupine crowd probably wouldn't get much benefit from it.
The ObamaScare2.0 gouging won't last long.

I think it is ironic that the NRA panic about Obama's first term is probably the single biggest reason for the spike in gun/ammo prices. Sadly I don't see them ever coming down again either. I can't help but wonder how much the NRA made in donations and advertising from the firearms/ammunition industries for their chicken little impersonation.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I have several different brands of lowers, but they all have Rock River parts kits with 2-Stage National Match triggers in them.  You can get parts kits with the standard trigger pretty cheap, but you will not like the trigger.  Unless you like to hit the trigger with a rock to get the gun to fire! 

I absolutely support the RR parts/FC.
I have the two-stage in my RR Predator Pursuit and love it.
I am thinking the collapsible buttstock/picatinny porcupine crowd probably wouldn't get much benefit from it.
The ObamaScare2.0 gouging won't last long.

I think it is ironic that the NRA panic about Obama's first term is probably the single biggest reason for the spike in gun/ammo prices. Sadly I don't see them ever coming down again either. I can't help but wonder how much the NRA made in donations and advertising from the firearms/ammunition industries for their chicken little impersonation.

Obamascare2.0 didn't turn out to be as big as Obamascare1.0.  Look for Inventory Reduction Sales after the 1st of the year! 

[Atroxus]

I have several different brands of lowers, but they all have Rock River parts kits with 2-Stage National Match triggers in them.  You can get parts kits with the standard trigger pretty cheap, but you will not like the trigger.  Unless you like to hit the trigger with a rock to get the gun to fire! 

I absolutely support the RR parts/FC.
I have the two-stage in my RR Predator Pursuit and love it.
I am thinking the collapsible buttstock/picatinny porcupine crowd probably wouldn't get much benefit from it.
The ObamaScare2.0 gouging won't last long.

I think it is ironic that the NRA panic about Obama's first term is probably the single biggest reason for the spike in gun/ammo prices. Sadly I don't see them ever coming down again either. I can't help but wonder how much the NRA made in donations and advertising from the firearms/ammunition industries for their chicken little impersonation.

Obamascare2.0 didn't turn out to be as big as Obamascare1.0.  Look for Inventory Reduction Sales after the 1st of the year! 

Yeah, I am also kind of worried that the NRA lost some credibility due to the first scare. As much as I disagree with some of their tactics they have still done more for 2nd amendment issues than any other single organization that I know of.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I have several different brands of lowers, but they all have Rock River parts kits with 2-Stage National Match triggers in them.  You can get parts kits with the standard trigger pretty cheap, but you will not like the trigger.  Unless you like to hit the trigger with a rock to get the gun to fire! 

I absolutely support the RR parts/FC.
I have the two-stage in my RR Predator Pursuit and love it.
I am thinking the collapsible buttstock/picatinny porcupine crowd probably wouldn't get much benefit from it.
The ObamaScare2.0 gouging won't last long.

I think it is ironic that the NRA panic about Obama's first term is probably the single biggest reason for the spike in gun/ammo prices. Sadly I don't see them ever coming down again either. I can't help but wonder how much the NRA made in donations and advertising from the firearms/ammunition industries for their chicken little impersonation.

Obamascare2.0 didn't turn out to be as big as Obamascare1.0.  Look for Inventory Reduction Sales after the 1st of the year! 

Yeah, I am also kind of worried that the NRA lost some credibility due to the first scare. As much as I disagree with some of their tactics they have still done more for 2nd amendment issues than any other single organization that I know of.

   Got to hand it to the NRA--in spite of their faults, they don't back down from a fight! 

[hillbilli]

I did order the RR parts kit that came with the NM 2 stage trigger, because I will use the rifle to shoot Competitions. If it was just as a plinker or varmint rifle The regular trigger would be fine, but at 600 yards I dont want to be handicapped with a crappy trigger..

[Wea300mag]

I took the plunge. I decided to spend a little more a purchased a Rock River AR-15 kit (CAR A4 w/chrome lined barrel). Now the wait begins. 

[marlin]

LOL > Picatinny Porcupine.. That cracked me up.. I think shopping around and buying parts seperate will work out cheaper than buying those kits.. Last summer I bought a complete DPMS oracle for 650 out the door at surplus, I shot the piss out of it, and then sold it for $750.. If I would have kept it for a while, I could have got more profit =). I moved on to the AK platform which I have learned to like much better. I still have an Olympic Arms k-16 stainless that is a keeper, but it comes out of the safe less often than anything else does. My Chinese AK is the one I fondle the most these days.. That and my Glock 20sf.

[Wea300mag]

The Rock River is going to be my "learning curve" gun. I will build a hunting gun later either out of the AR-15 or AR-10 platforms.

[carpsniperg2]

If you build 1 you will build many trust me on that

The RRA 2 stage is one of the best trigger kits out there IMHO.

[Blacklab]

If you build 1 you will build many trust me on that

 

lol thinking  on building a ruger 204 and I haven't even dialed in the new 6.5 AA grendel   

[thinkingman]

 
I keep going back to the 6X45 idea.
I handload and love 6mm pills.

[Wea300mag]

I have to admit, I won't recieve my RRA kit for a couple months and I'm already looking into the 6.5 Grendel.

[carpsniperg2]

I have to admit, I won't receive my RRA kit for a couple months and I'm already looking into the 6.5 Grendel.

 

I finished mine not that long ago. Great cartridge

I just got done "oh about 10 mins ago" rebuilding a stock 308. New spring kit, trigger kit, grip, stock and tac latch. Fit's like a glove now.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I keep going back to the 6X45 idea.
I handload and love 6mm pills.

If you like the 6mm, look into Black Hole Weaponry's 6mmX6.8 SPC barrels.  That's going to be my next AR build. 

[Heredoggydoggy]

I have to admit, I won't recieve my RRA kit for a couple months and I'm already looking into the 6.5 Grendel.

It will be worth the wait, believe me.  I just ordered one of their one-piece Hi-Rise 30mm scope mounts.  They are great, and half the price of the Burris P.E.P.R. mounts.

I have a Grendel AR.  Except it's called the 20 LBC.  6.5 Grendel necked down to .204.  Love it so much I'm selling my CZ .204 Ruger.

[thinkingman]

I keep going back to the 6X45 idea.
I handload and love 6mm pills.

If you like the 6mm, look into Black Hole Weaponry's 6mmX6.8 SPC barrels.  That's going to be my next AR build. 

Part of the appeal is resizing .223 Rem brass, which is everywhere and the same bolt.
Really, just a barrel and dies.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I keep going back to the 6X45 idea.
I handload and love 6mm pills.

If you like the 6mm, look into Black Hole Weaponry's 6mmX6.8 SPC barrels.  That's going to be my next AR build. 

Part of the appeal is resizing .223 Rem brass, which is everywhere and the same bolt.
Really, just a barrel and dies.

Same thing with the 6.8 SPC--If you already have one!

[thinkingman]

Requires new bolt.

[Heredoggydoggy]

Requires new bolt.

Not if you already have a 6.8 SPC.  Same case.  I emailed and asked Black Hole that specific question.  Not that it matters to me--I'm getting another bolt and carrier in 6.8 SPC anyway. 

[thinkingman]

I just want to run a larger bullet on the same case/bolt/magazine setup I already own.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I just want to run a larger bullet on the same case/bolt/magazine setup I already own.

Same here--only I want to run a smaller bullet on the same case/bolt/magazine setup I already own. 

To paraphrase "Tim the Tool Man":  MORE POWDER!   

[jaymark6655]

I just want to run a larger bullet on the same case/bolt/magazine setup I already own.

Same here--only I want to run a smaller bullet on the same case/bolt/magazine setup I already own. 

To paraphrase "Tim the Tool Man":  MORE POWDER!   

Funny, but I think Tim would be trying to fire a 30mm out of it or maybe something you would normally fire from a M1 tank.