Don't people like to eat their kill?

[marlin]

Today I went up in the "Rock Candy" part of Capital Forest, to go shoot some clays... And on my way up to the shooting spot, I saw like 6 different deer carcasses and gut piles.. Most of them looked like just the backstraps were taken, and the rest was left behind.
 One was really fresh, it was a spike buck, and it was nearly complete, just the backstraps gone.. WTH. When I got my doe this year we used everything but the head and feet. I dont get it.

[Huntbear]

Capitol Forest = Bough cutters that do not speak English = poaching...  I would call WDFW and get them to check it out at the very least it is wanton waste of a game animal...

[raydog]

 

Capitol Forest = Bough cutters that do not speak English = poaching...  I would call WDFW and get them to check it out at the very least it is wanton waste of a game animal...

[deerhunter_98520]

  make a call

[Jonathan_S]

 

it's illegal wasting at the very least. Most likely poaching

[actionshooter]

Capitol Forest = Bough cutters that do not speak English = poaching...  I would call WDFW and get them to check it out at the very least it is wanton waste of a game animal...

I gurantee more deer go out under salal brush than legal deer.

[dscubame]

You would be doing a good thing turning that information in....it is the type if information the WDFW wardens want.

[trophyelk6x6]

That doesnt sound right

[runamuk]

please turn it in with directions to where it was that you saw the carcasses and if you took pics include those.  There is a huge amount of poaching in grays harbor and mason county that is directly tied to the weed pickers many of whom are also illegal.  There have been a few busts but it is tough to catch them without information.  I saw an area go from lots of deer and rubs to not seeing a single deer after the weed pickers went through this was a small area with almost no hunting pressure the only change from one season to the next was the allowing multiple vans of weed pickers in...they also destroyed the cedars in that area limbing them up over 50 feet in some cases

[Boss .300 winmag]

Those south of the border substance hunters will clean an area out fast like the pacific rim ones do as well. :yike

[bearpaw]

Has to be poachers, do everyone a favor and report this with all the details you can remember....

[hornhunter1987]

they busted some brush pickers in shelton a few years ago with 15 deer under there brush. mostly does and fawns. they were catching them with gill nets and selling the meat.

[Harborhunter]

REPORT IT!! MAKE A CALL!!

[Huntboy]

REPORT IT!! MAKE A CALL!!

 

[pianoman9701]

Bigtex and Outdoor Guardian have been made aware of this thread.

[Elkaholic daWg]

they busted some brush pickers in shelton a few years ago with 15 deer under there brush. mostly does and fawns. they were catching them with gill nets and selling the meat.

 How about making it illegal (brush picking) ...Or at the Very LEAST make them get licenses and enforce it heavily! They have created more fees and licenses over the last few sessions and called them fees...WHY NOT this one?

[bobcat]

I'd sure like for brush picking to end on state land, or at least require proof of citizenship before a permit is issued.

[JimmyHoffa]

they busted some brush pickers in shelton a few years ago with 15 deer under there brush. mostly does and fawns. they were catching them with gill nets and selling the meat.

 How about making it illegal (brush picking) ...Or at the Very LEAST make them get licenses and enforce it heavily! They have created more fees and licenses over the last few sessions and called them fees...WHY NOT this one?

My understanding is that one guy (the boss) will get the commercial forest products license/permit/keys and that guy is legal.  Usually the same guy that owns the vans and the stash house.  Then he goes around and rounds up the illegals.  You might miss the brochures at the issuing offices, though, because all I've ever seen are in Spanish.

[Curly]

I heard that these brush pickers don't even need a Discover Pass.

They are out there littering, poaching, and stealing cedar bows but are exempt from the DP.  Unbelievable......... 

[pianoman9701]

So you guys have decided that brush pickers are the culprits? Interesting conclusion. But the evidence seems to point in a different direction.

Pickers live on next-to-nothing. They are absolutely qualified as poor. Some are legally here and some are criminal aliens. In either case, they don't get big bucks for what they harvest or everyone would be doing it. If someone who was hungry and poor killed a deer to feed his family, do you think he would take the whole deer or just the backstraps? I believe a poor person would take everything. This appears to be thrill killing, not subsistence. Point at some white guys. They've most likely done this.

[Curly]

That is a good  point in this particular case, Pman.  It is hard to say who did the crime.  But the fact remains that brush pickers have been known to do poaching.

[pianoman9701]

That is a good  point in this particular case, Pman.  It is hard to say who did the crime.  But the fact remains that brush pickers have been known to do poaching.

Yes, they have, and usually take out everything when they do. If you're poor and find a bag of groceries lying about, you don't look through it, take the candy and leave. You take the whole bag.

[jaymark6655]

So you guys have decided that brush pickers are the culprits? Interesting conclusion. But the evidence seems to point in a different direction.

Pickers live on next-to-nothing. They are absolutely qualified as poor. Some are legally here and some are criminal aliens. In either case, they don't get big bucks for what they harvest or everyone would be doing it. If someone who was hungry and poor killed a deer to feed his family, do you think he would take the whole deer or just the backstraps? I believe a poor person would take everything. This appears to be thrill killing, not subsistence. Point at some white guys. They've most likely done this.

True, but poor people in a rush or lazy wouldn't take everything.  I am not sure I would say it was a white person, but I am not about to say it was any other race either.

I do hope they are caught.

[pianoman9701]

So you guys have decided that brush pickers are the culprits? Interesting conclusion. But the evidence seems to point in a different direction.

Pickers live on next-to-nothing. They are absolutely qualified as poor. Some are legally here and some are criminal aliens. In either case, they don't get big bucks for what they harvest or everyone would be doing it. If someone who was hungry and poor killed a deer to feed his family, do you think he would take the whole deer or just the backstraps? I believe a poor person would take everything. This appears to be thrill killing, not subsistence. Point at some white guys. They've most likely done this.

True, but poor people in a rush or lazy wouldn't take everything.  I am not sure I would say it was a white person, but I am not about to say it was any other race either.

I do hope they are caught.

This is a comment i can get behind.  I hope so, too.

[WSU]

Sounds like lazy hunters to me.  If someone does poach a deer, it seems likely that they wouldn't sit next to the road and carve the backstraps off.  It is more likely they would throw the deer in their rig and get the hell out of there before they got caught.  I find it interesting that there is no indication that brushpickers (or anyone other than lazy hunters) did this and everyone is immediately convinced it was illegal aliens. 

[pianoman9701]

Sounds like lazy hunters to me.  If someone does poach a deer, it seems likely that they wouldn't sit next to the road and carve the backstraps off.  It is more likely they would throw the deer in their rig and get the hell out of there before they got caught.  I find it interesting that there is no indication that brushpickers (or anyone other than lazy hunters) did this and everyone is immediately convinced it was illegal aliens.

[/b]

Yep, it's kind of where I was going with that.

[bobcat]

I commented on brush pickers possibly being a problem, but I never thought they were responsible in this particular instance. My impression was that the subject of this thread had been changed, and we were no longer discussing the poached deer that was mentioned in the original post.   

[Kowsrule30]

If you found rubber bands and twine around them more then likely brush pickers...     If not I'd say others...

[Elkaholic daWg]

they busted some brush pickers in shelton a few years ago with 15 deer under there brush. mostly does and fawns. they were catching them with gill nets and selling the meat.

 How about making it illegal (brush picking) ...Or at the Very LEAST make them get licenses and enforce it heavily! They have created more fees and licenses over the last few sessions and called them fees...WHY NOT this one?

My understanding is that one guy (the boss) will get the commercial forest products license/permit/keys and that guy is legal.  Usually the same guy that owns the vans and the stash house.  Then he goes around and rounds up the illegals.  You might miss the brochures at the issuing offices, though, because all I've ever seen are in Spanish.

"So you guys have decided that brush pickers are the culprits? Interesting conclusion. But the evidence seems to point in a different direction."

 No pianoman, I was responding to the post quoted! Sorry about the  Really hope he reported the original topic subject

[runamuk]

Sounds like lazy hunters to me.  If someone does poach a deer, it seems likely that they wouldn't sit next to the road and carve the backstraps off.  It is more likely they would throw the deer in their rig and get the hell out of there before they got caught.  I find it interesting that there is no indication that brushpickers (or anyone other than lazy hunters) did this and everyone is immediately convinced it was illegal aliens.

[/b]

Yep, it's kind of where I was going with that.

how does it point to lazy hunters?  it could be thrill killers.....kids...drunken monkeys.... I mentioned brush pickers because they are often also growing pot and poaching if you live in this area you are pretty aware of how prolific the problem is.  Doesn't matter if it was rabid cows if no one turns it in it doesn't get investigated if not investigated it keeps happening unchecked then we here about more areas with fewer animals come hunting season and begin he finger pointing session all over again 

[buckhorn2]

Hard to really see what they are doing because where I live they have keys to every locked gate around here. When in Raymond the other day the lady at the counter said they could;nt keep enough 22 shells on the counters because they were being bought by the thousands so must be some tough brush in the woods. Last week in aberdeen saw to lady pulling 2 grocery carts with every thing to make tacos but the meat.