Thoughts on an AR 15 .223 as a varmit gun

[AWS]

So far in this thread we have one AR with a faux grenade launcher, one guy that has his to kill an unamed group of people, one guy profiling like Dillinger with a pair of Thompsons on his hip, a girl just ripping of rounds into the forest, and a guy that is practicing killing things before he goes back to the combat  zone and someone has the audacity to put someone down because they look like assault weapon to them or don't feel they are a true sporting weapon.  Talk about narrrow minded.

AWS

[FALFire]

So far in this thread we have one AR with a faux grenade launcher, one guy that has his to kill an unamed group of people, one guy profiling like Dillinger with a pair of Thompsons on his hip, a girl just ripping of rounds into the forest, and a guy that is practicing killing things before he goes back to the combat  zone and someone has the audacity to put someone down because they look like assault weapon to them or don't feel they are a true sporting weapon.  Talk about narrrow minded.

AWS

I use my firearms, bolt guns and AR's, to hunt predators and big game with. I carried an AR for several years while on patrol and needed to stay as familiar as possible if I ever had to use it on duty.
When others think of AR's as an assualt rifle they likely don't know the true description of such. AR's are rapidly becoming the hottest thing out there for hunting and it's proven by the back order logs that all AR manufactures are facing these days while bolt guns sit in the gun racks collecting dust.
Most are just as accurate as any out of the box bolt gun available to the consumer and switching calibers is a 15 second snap, probably the best part of the AR platform is being able to build it yourself rather than sending the firearm off to a gunsmith for a new barrel or caliber change.

What I find interesting is when we as sportsmen are so narrow minded to call a bolt gun a true sporting rifle and a semi auto rifle, an "assualt weapon". Those kinds of liberal remarks are truely working against everything we as sportsmen are trying to work for.

What about guys that have "sniper" looking rifles built for hunting, are they playing out a dream of being another Carlos Hathcock? Well, I certainly hope not. Why would anyone want a 338 Lapua with a 32" barrel and detachable 20 round mag on a bolt gun just to hunt whitetailed deer? Maybe they just happen to like the way it looks. I happen to like the look, but I wouldn't choose that particular setup for hunting, it's way too heavy and awkward for my style of hunting. But I don't think they are sneaking around in the bushes to whack some poor farmer at 1500 yards.

Call'em what you want, I'm not old school, I like the way the AR's handle. I don't use them to impress anyone and no one should judge a person from a photo placed on a website.  Many sportsmen don't agree with the gangsta' look but I'm sure he was just foolin' around when the photo was taken. Poor choice of photo maybe, but I'll hold judgement on the character of the individual.

Enjoy the sport, it probably won't be around forever, way too many liberals out there.

[AWS]

FALFire

Your one of the few that actually seem sincere and use your AR as a hunting weapon.  What I'm trying to point out is that it seems everyone wants people to think AR's are a sporting weapon but then going and portray them to the public as something else.  The majority of the public don't see you using your AR out in the field, they see footage of Irag , Afganistan, African tribal wars, and gangbanges with millitary style weapons AK's, AR's, etc.  They see the profiling picture and the hard talk and hear full magezines ripping off out in the forest.

I've only seen two guys out coyote hunting with AR's and they were packing more magazines and hardware than my whole squad would carrie on patrol in Vietnam.  They looked like they were going to war.

I also have a problem with the whole semi auto thing whether it be a 742, BAR, 1100 or SBE.  It seems to create and additude of "if I don't get it with the first shot I've got a few more" .

I agree with you on the whole long range thing.

AWS

[300rum]

I have taken my Colt H-bar Target Match out a few times.  I reload for it so I usually put 4 or 5 in a 10 round mag.  I only reload about 50 at a time so no 20 round mags full of Wolf ammunition here!

Those who carry jungle clips out in the woods with their Wolf Ammo are actually pretty mutch an advocate for animal preservation as this probably means that they aren't going to hit anything anyway.

I am confidant with my AR, I hit what I aim at and I like that about a gun, I don't like that it is like carrying a cinder block around though.

[FALFire]

AWS,
I understand completely. The AR I use for coyotes is camoed and blends very well with the camo I wear. I carry it muzzle down on a two point sling slung acrossed my back to prevent any barrel profile while walking from or to a stand. I do this so not to draw attention from others I may encounter along the way. If you were standing facing me from 10 yards you would likely never even know I had an AR with me, it's that concealable in plain view.

I've encountered a few land owners and other hunters that raised an eyebrow when they have seen the AR. I just assure them it's like any other semi auto firearm and not like the ones seen on TV or the type used on battle fields and I assure them it's not full auto. What is really odd is, I have actually recieved a lot of very good comments from many regarding the AR. I have converted several of my new neighbors and hunting buddies over to the AR platform. All of them have been die hard bolt gun guys for years. Once they actually had a chance to shoot mine, the next question was "how much is one of these going to cost me?"

As for me I am very aware of what many think when the see any "military type" looking weapon and can imagine the images that go through their minds, so I try to keep things very low key and just go on about my business. However, once the ranchers see that I whacked a dog or two and they have one less predator to worry about, they never seem to have any questions as to the validity of the AR for a credible predator gun.