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Partitions my favorite
« on: December 03, 2012, 03:19:27 PM »
Been loading 165gr. partitions this year with intentions on hunting with them and had accuracy at one inch groups going 2910 out the muzzle with 300wsm. Took an elk trip and shot a lead cow at 250 yards with complete pass through on the first shot through both shoulders and heart. She made it 20yards and put a second round behind the shoulder hitting 1 lounge and liver and she went right down. While cleaning her I notice the damage done by these bullets was amazing and still got awsome penetration.
loaded up 180gr. partitions going 2860fps with same accuracy. Might try that load next year.
anybody else have any success with these bullets
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 06:15:24 PM »
I use a lot of different bullets but I do love the partition. They are really a great hunting bullet giving both expansion and penetration. If I had to choose only one bullet it'd be the partition.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2012, 07:01:46 PM »
Its all I load  :tup:
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 07:07:35 PM »
They are awesome.  I load my 300 win mag with 180 going 2929fps.  Great elk bullet and accurate to boot

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2012, 07:14:07 PM »
270 winchester, 150 grain partition, 55 grs IMR 4831= Dead right there.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 08:57:27 PM »
Playing around with 125 parts for a 6.5 grendel. Not bad need more load development.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2012, 09:04:07 PM »
Have loaded nothing but Partitions for years, in all my rifles...  .338 WM  with 210 Part. at 2910 fps. was deadly.   However, I have fallen in love with the performance of Accubonds.  They hold together just as well as Partitions, but fly so much better, and much higher BC.

The 225 gr. Accubond in out .338s goes out the barrel at 2850 fps.  Worked flawlessly at 25 yards and at 645 yards on bull elk.  Can not ask more than that..
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2012, 09:05:26 PM »
"Been loading 165gr. partitions this year with intentions on hunting with them and had accuracy at one inch groups going 2910 out the muzzle with 300wsm."

No offense but you can easily get more velocity out of a 300 mag with 165 grains. 
 
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2012, 09:13:12 PM »
I love Partitions for elk.   I don't shoot them at deer, because I prefer faster expansion, but man I love them on elk.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 09:15:51 PM »
"Been loading 165gr. partitions this year with intentions on hunting with them and had accuracy at one inch groups going 2910 out the muzzle with 300wsm."

No offense but you can easily get more velocity out of a 300 mag with 165 grains. 
 
If you're happy with that no problem.  :tup:

while im not shooting partitions,with bergers ive noticed,after getting more than a few bloody, that they perform better on animals at slower speeds...dad an uncle nev liked FAST partitions saying they didnt hold up,but who knows what kinda speed they were pushing

maybe theres a sweet spot for partitions too ?????


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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 09:17:41 PM »
I don't know.....   I don't load for speed.

My 160's leave my 7MM at about 3000 fps, as I recall.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2012, 06:54:29 AM »
"Been loading 165gr. partitions this year with intentions on hunting with them and had accuracy at one inch groups going 2910 out the muzzle with 300wsm."

No offense but you can easily get more velocity out of a 300 mag with 165 grains. 
 
If you're happy with that no problem.  :tup:

while im not shooting partitions,with bergers ive noticed,after getting more than a few bloody, that they perform better on animals at slower speeds...dad an uncle nev liked FAST partitions saying they didnt hold up,but who knows what kinda speed they were pushing

maybe theres a sweet spot for partitions too ?????

They probably said that because partitions shed the front half. Its a common complaint but thats what they are supposed to do. The front half expands rapidly and violently and the rear half holds together and pushes through the animal. thats why there's typically quite a lot of blood shot when you kill and animal with a partition. Ive recovered a couple and the front half was gone. Anyways just thought I'd throw that out there as I see this complaint about them a lot but its completely normal.

If they had the B.C. of the accubond it's be all I'd use.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 02:29:46 PM »
I have got loads to go around 3000 fps with 165 gr partitions but not as good of accuracy. I am only shooting a 23inch barrel also and noticed with different loads that my max powder charge isnt going much of any faster than 1 or 2 grains less because it is not having a chance to burn all the powder. Plus its going clean through both shoulders at 250 yards. Good enough for me for now. Plus I just started reloading this year so try to play it safe till I get more experienced.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 03:13:41 PM »
I haven't gotten into loading but I only shoot Nosler Partitions in my Weatherby's, using Wthrby factory loads.

Between me, my son and brother in the last nine years we have 12 elk with my guns.  I shoot a 340 Wthrby mag, 210gr and loan them my 300 Wthrby mag, 180gr.  I have alway been impressed with the partition and how intact it remains for the damage it makes penetrating a shoulder or both.

I have recovered several of the bullets, usually through both shoulders and buried just under the hide.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 03:40:17 PM »
Here is pic of partition after stopping in the offside of an elk.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2012, 03:51:20 PM »
Here is pic of partition after stopping in the offside of an elk.

def some partition haters there..lol


idk how they could say that bullet doesnt do its job when you pulled it from a DEAD elk  :chuckle:

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2012, 03:53:29 PM »
I like partitions but prefer accubonds.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2012, 03:53:46 PM »
Here is pic of partition after stopping in the offside of an elk.

def some partition haters there..lol


idk how they could say that bullet doesnt do its job when you pulled it from a DEAD elk  :chuckle:

Yeah, I hate Core-lokts like some other guys said over on that thread too.   But to each their own..........lots of guys love Core-lokt bullets and partitions.  Lots of bullets choices out there these days. :tup:
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2012, 05:01:59 PM »
I like partitions but prefer accubonds.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2012, 05:07:43 PM »
 :yeah:

I have always been a die hard partition guy. My buddy that works there talked to me into trying the accubonds a few years ago. I have loved them!!! I shoot them in almost every rifle I own. Killed more then a few critters with both. He also got me talked into the etip in a few magnums and I have had great luck with them as well.

The only thing I won't buy from them are the sporting handgun. They preformed like crap in both guns I shot them threw.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2012, 05:26:59 PM »
They do what they are supposed to do, I have no complaints about them. :tup:
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2012, 05:33:32 PM »
 I've never had one fail me, been using partitions for years and have no need to change. This years Montana buck was shot at 478 yards with a 140gr., one shot, clear pass through. The buck went 10 yards.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2012, 05:38:43 PM »
when my barnes fail me Ill have to try them, had a bear pass through at 400yds DRT.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2012, 05:54:56 PM »
Been using partitions in most my guns for over 25 yrs.  Not one complaint.  I have been playing with other bullets lately, accubonds, ttsx, and some others.  I trust partitions over all of them however.

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175 grain 7mm bullet at 2950 fps, over 30 kills, no problems
180 grain 3006, at 2600, around 20 kills, no bullet problems
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2012, 07:03:05 PM »
:yeah:

I have always been a die hard partition guy. My buddy that works there talked to me into trying the accubonds a few years ago. I have loved them!!! I shoot them in almost every rifle I own. Killed more then a few critters with both. He also got me talked into the etip in a few magnums and I have had great luck with them as well.

The only thing I won't buy from them are the sporting handgun. They preformed like crap in both guns I shot them threw.

I think I might work some loads up this summer in a few rifles and give the E-Tips a try in the fall.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2012, 08:22:16 PM »
Used both partitions and e tips on my safari last March. My son used 180 Partitions in his 30-06, I used  180 E-tips in a 308. All but one of the partitions were recovered under the off-side hide (4 animals) and all but one of the E-tips exited with one left under the hide. Both bullets performed perfectly and all resulted in one shot kills at ranges from 20 yards out to 400 yards, on animals, nine total, ranging from 175# up to 900#'s.  No second shots on any of them!  :)
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2012, 09:16:40 PM »
Got home and found these four, wife took over the space where I had them.   Found them in a sandwich bag in the closet.

I threw In my 378 Wthrby mag round nose 300 gr I took my moose with.   Two elk and a bear.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2012, 09:23:59 PM »
30 years of Partition use, I have zero reason to consider a change.  And if I did, the first place I would look would be to the Accubond.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2012, 09:28:09 PM »
30 years of Partition use, I have zero reason to consider a change.  And if I did, the first place I would look would be to the Accubond.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2012, 09:30:43 PM »
:yeah:

I have always been a die hard partition guy. My buddy that works there talked to me into trying the accubonds a few years ago. I have loved them!!! I shoot them in almost every rifle I own. Killed more then a few critters with both. He also got me talked into the etip in a few magnums and I have had great luck with them as well.

The only thing I won't buy from them are the sporting handgun. They preformed like crap in both guns I shot them threw.

You should be happy with them. I have loaded them in 3 magnums and all have really shot them well. Better then I thought they would. I have 3 kills with them. All animals have been dead in impact. 2 bears 1 boar.

I think I might work some loads up this summer in a few rifles and give the E-Tips a try in the fall.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 12:54:03 PM »
I have a question for you, what is the logic behind shooting the lead cow?

From my understanding the lead cow is the most experienced cow who is in charge of herd safety and leading the herd to traditional feeding, calving and security areas. Yet I constantly hear hunters commenting on shooting the "lead cow". It seems to me shooting the lead cow provides the oldest, toughest meat and is the worst cow to take in regards to herd stability and safety. Is there something I am missing?

Please don't take this as an attack, congrats on filling your tag, I am truly just curious if there is something about herd dynamics I don't understand. If you are bothered by this let me know and I'll delete it and start a new thread.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 02:29:37 PM »
i agree but in my sercumstance the lead cow was much further uphill making a much shorter hall out and the other cows had younger ones with them and didnt want to shoot a cow and take it away from the yearling even though they were getting pretty big. in this case was a better decision to me. plus i know the meat may not be as tender the way some cook it but my steak meat gets sliced lunch meat thin and put on an open fire for a few seconds per side and just pulls apart when finished. roasts are slow cooked resulting to tender know matter how old the animal is and stew meat is the same way. and rest is burger so it all works out. also more meat is better for spreading around to family and close friends. good point though. i would love to hear others opinion on the subject.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2012, 03:55:46 PM »
I have a question for you, what is the logic behind shooting the lead cow?

From my understanding the lead cow is the most experienced cow who is in charge of herd safety and leading the herd to traditional feeding, calving and security areas. Yet I constantly hear hunters commenting on shooting the "lead cow". It seems to me shooting the lead cow provides the oldest, toughest meat and is the worst cow to take in regards to herd stability and safety. Is there something I am missing?

Please don't take this as an attack, congrats on filling your tag, I am truly just curious if there is something about herd dynamics I don't understand. If you are bothered by this let me know and I'll delete it and start a new thread.

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He probably shot the lead cow to test the partition.  :dunno:  :chuckle:

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2012, 04:18:24 PM »
My wife still shoots partitions and wont let me switch her over to the accubonds. both are great bullets i prefure the accubonds but you cant gowrong.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2012, 05:44:40 PM »
i agree but in my sercumstance the lead cow was much further uphill making a much shorter hall out and the other cows had younger ones with them and didnt want to shoot a cow and take it away from the yearling even though they were getting pretty big. in this case was a better decision to me. plus i know the meat may not be as tender the way some cook it but my steak meat gets sliced lunch meat thin and put on an open fire for a few seconds per side and just pulls apart when finished. roasts are slow cooked resulting to tender know matter how old the animal is and stew meat is the same way. and rest is burger so it all works out. also more meat is better for spreading around to family and close friends. good point though. i would love to hear others opinion on the subject.

Thanks for the explanation and sorry for the thread jack. I have just heard "I shot the lead cow" like 5 times in the past 2 months and this question has been bothering me. On a thread related note I shoot 7mm mag partitions for bear and accubonds for ungulates. I am very satisfied with both rounds, all animals have died within 25 yards.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2012, 06:49:30 PM »
its fine with me. like i said thats a good question and should probably ask starting a new thread under elk catagory. its an idea to see what peoples opinions are
accubond are a good choice also and we have had good luck hunting with them i just havent developed an accurate load out of the 300wsm yet
as far as factory loads go back when i didnt reload i always liked fusions. had good accuracy and did awsome on big game. never had an animal go pass 30 yards with couple dropping in there track out of 6 animals we have taken with them.they had great penetration as well as expansion causing lots of damage. loved the price to.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2012, 12:56:01 PM »
I have a question for you, what is the logic behind shooting the lead cow?

From my understanding the lead cow is the most experienced cow who is in charge of herd safety and leading the herd to traditional feeding, calving and security areas. Yet I constantly hear hunters commenting on shooting the "lead cow". It seems to me shooting the lead cow provides the oldest, toughest meat and is the worst cow to take in regards to herd stability and safety. Is there something I am missing?

Please don't take this as an attack, congrats on filling your tag, I am truly just curious if there is something about herd dynamics I don't understand. If you are bothered by this let me know and I'll delete it and start a new thread.

Most people who claim they shot a big lead cow are probably just BSing. I hear it all the time, but how do you know you killed the lead cow? Is it just the biggest cow, or the one in the lead? What if the one in the lead isn't the biggest? Did you watch the herd and notice the same cow appears to be taking the lead? Not calling BS on duckmen, or anyone else in particular I've just noticed many people shoot a big cow and call it the lead cow... because thats what they have heard said before.

Anyways, partitions are a sweet bullet and an obvious proven killer, but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead. Other than I usually shoot barnes.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2012, 01:03:54 PM »
but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead.

a bent lead tip will have deduct from the BC and accuracy performance of the bullet..but this wont be noticed until shooting at further ranges

shouldnt be a problem for 95 % of hunters shooting 500 an under


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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2012, 01:06:59 PM »
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Anyways, partitions are a sweet bullet and an obvious proven killer, but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead. Other than I usually shoot barns.

Same reason I don't use Partitions anymore.

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2012, 02:19:30 PM »
this was the biggest and oldest one in the herd. i dont think any of the there elk were over 3 1/2 and i was told this was a 5 1/2 by the taxidermist when he looked at the teeth. getting a tan hide done. i guess i could have worded it differently but figured she was the lead cow since she was the biggest and oldest one making her the most experienced. she was pretty grey when the others were bright tan
but how about we just call her a big girl. :)
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2012, 03:58:18 PM »
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Anyways, partitions are a sweet bullet and an obvious proven killer, but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead. Other than I usually shoot barns.

Same reason I don't use Partitions anymore.
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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2012, 07:26:12 AM »
but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead.

a bent lead tip will have deduct from the BC and accuracy performance of the bullet..but this wont be noticed until shooting at further ranges

shouldnt be a problem for 95 % of hunters shooting 500 an under

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Re: Partitions my favorite
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2012, 08:52:18 PM »
Tested the 180 gr. partitions and getting 2870 fps out of the 300wsm at 3/4 " to 1" groups. Going to try neck sizing and see what happens and will make the decision from there to send in for the custom dial for my scope.
that seems like better speed for the size of the bullet compared to 165gr. for this gun.
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