Free: Contests & Raffles.
I think some of you guys are missing the point. I understand that WDFW thinks there is no need for additional MH's right now because they are figuring out a way to manage the program. With that being said, I dont understand how you cant see it as a "special class" of hunters until they re-open enrollment.I understand that many of you have done the work and put in the time to become a MH. The problem is, when WDFW decided to suspend the program they don't afford all other hunters the same oppurtunity to become a MH, thus making a special class of hunters. Legally, they may get theirselves in a bind if someone really wanted to push the issue because this goes against everything our liberal government preaches and they are discriminating against individuals who havent completed the course.I am opposed to cutting off the tags to MH's, but I think that WDFW needs to get there sh%t together and open the program back up. Good luck to all the MH's and maybe someday I will be there too!
The problem is, when WDFW decided to suspend the program they don't afford all other hunters the same oppurtunity to become a MH, thus making a special class of hunters. Legally, they may get theirselves in a bind if someone really wanted to push the issue because this goes against everything our liberal government preaches and they are discriminating against individuals who havent completed the course.
I think the whole program "idea" is a great one. However from the few guys I have talked to that went through the program they have said that it seems to have been badly managed (Just what I heard). And that is the reason that I haven't looked into it more. I have only been hunting for about 5 years though. I do think it is unfair to have special hunts and permits that are not available but to a select few. And I would agree with cem3434 that this could and maybe should be challenged in court.
Quote from: turkeyfeather on April 19, 2013, 09:29:19 AMI think the whole program "idea" is a great one. However from the few guys I have talked to that went through the program they have said that it seems to have been badly managed (Just what I heard). And that is the reason that I haven't looked into it more. I have only been hunting for about 5 years though. I do think it is unfair to have special hunts and permits that are not available but to a select few. And I would agree with cem3434 that this could and maybe should be challenged in court.Challenging what in court, exactly? The MH hunts are usually high visibility, damage control hunts, which require a minimum level of learning and proficiency to prove the qualifications of the hunter before the state is willing to risk the reputation of all hunters by sending someone in to do the job. That's the purpose of the program. Do some hunters already have the skills required to be a MH without taking the course? Sure. Does the state have any way of verifying that without them taking the course? No. It's a specific program for a specific purpose. There are many hunts that have pre-requisites for hunters to be eligible. You can't hunt geese in 2A and 2B without having passed a goose identification. Some state require a class before you can bowhunt. Some require a class to be able to obtain a moose or sheep tag because of the rigors and the chance of failure by not properly identifying the game. The same is true of those hunts in the public eye, the MH tags. And again, you've all had the chance to take the program during previous years and have chosen not to. That's on you, not me. Leave my privileges alone. Sour grapes because I did the work and you didn't. Tough.
The mistake is thinking those tags would ever go into the general draw or any kind of draw available to everyone. If they don't go to the master hunter, then the state would more than likely hire professional hunters for the control hunts just like other states do.Do you really want your tax dollars going to pay someone to hunt these hunts?
Quote from: cem3434 on April 19, 2013, 08:46:24 AMI think some of you guys are missing the point. I understand that WDFW thinks there is no need for additional MH's right now because they are figuring out a way to manage the program. With that being said, I dont understand how you cant see it as a "special class" of hunters until they re-open enrollment.I understand that many of you have done the work and put in the time to become a MH. The problem is, when WDFW decided to suspend the program they don't afford all other hunters the same opportunity to become a MH, thus making a special class of hunters. Legally, they may get theirselves in a bind if someone really wanted to push the issue because this goes against everything our liberal government preaches and they are discriminating against individuals who havent completed the course.I am opposed to cutting off the tags to MH's, but I think that WDFW needs to get there sh%t together and open the program back up. Good luck to all the MH's and maybe someday I will be there too!Your "special class of hunters" point is moot. Before enrollment was suspended this year, you've all had the opportunity to enroll and you didn't, for whatever reason; not enough time, didn't believe in it, whatever. But now that enrollment is suspended, it gives you and excuse to throw me under the bus? You have a problem with the WDFW suspending enrollment. Go after them, not me. I'm a fellow hunter who's done extra work to achieve MH status. Stop trying to take away the benefits afforded me for doing so. If you don't like the program, tell your state elected officials to put pressure on the DFW to end it. If you want to enroll, jump on it when they open it up again. If you want to be bitter because I have something you don't, keep it to yourself. I'm not the one who held you back from participating in previous years when it was available.
I think some of you guys are missing the point. I understand that WDFW thinks there is no need for additional MH's right now because they are figuring out a way to manage the program. With that being said, I dont understand how you cant see it as a "special class" of hunters until they re-open enrollment.I understand that many of you have done the work and put in the time to become a MH. The problem is, when WDFW decided to suspend the program they don't afford all other hunters the same opportunity to become a MH, thus making a special class of hunters. Legally, they may get theirselves in a bind if someone really wanted to push the issue because this goes against everything our liberal government preaches and they are discriminating against individuals who havent completed the course.I am opposed to cutting off the tags to MH's, but I think that WDFW needs to get there sh%t together and open the program back up. Good luck to all the MH's and maybe someday I will be there too!