AR-15 free float handguard.

[huntandjeep]

 I want a free float quadrail for my DPMS carbine. I know I need the 7" one but what else is needed to put it on ? Thanks Allen

[xd2005]

If you are talking tools, I think it depends own which type. I want to say I grabbed a Daniel Defense one for mine and didn't need any special tools (if I did, they provided one with it).

[huntandjeep]

No was wondering if I needed to buy a barrel nut or if the one on my AR now would work. Right now I have the stock glacier guard on it. I'm looking at either the Troy industries 7" or there 7.2" either one would fot my AR correct.

[xd2005]

I think my DD came with a new one and the tool to install. Sorry, don't know about Troy, and it's been a few years for me.

[Biggerhammer]

Most quality rails come with their own barrel nut and mounting hardware. More often than not, they also come with the Allen wrench or tool to install.

MidWest Indusrties does quality rails for a good price. I have used them on basic AR builds. They are stout, made well and don't break the bank.

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=149

[huntandjeep]

Thanks guys Hammer i was also looking at  the Midwest Ind. T-series saving $ does help. Them and Troy are the only ones with dark earth to match the stock and pistol grip. I should be able to get off the delta rings with a DPMS multi tool right. Sorry for all the questions but i'm new to this whole black rifle thing. They are like a Jeep you cant leave them stock 

[Biggerhammer]

Any AR multi tool will do it.

This is a 15" MidWest Industries T-Series on a 17" AA 6.5 Grendel.

[dscubame]

Sampson rails here.  Sampson makes one exclusively for Rainier Arms that I am fond of.  Evolution it may be called.

[Biggerhammer]

Sampson rails here.  Sampson makes one exclusively for Rainier Arms that I am fond of.  Evolution it may be called.

They are nice rails with a style of their own.

[carpsniperg2]

Just got into my first Sampson and it won't be my last! They are very nice!!! You guys can keep those cheese grater handgaurds

[Biggerhammer]

Midwest Industries is a good bang for the buck but if one is talking quality. Then I lean toward Mega, their machining work is out of this world and for those with "Soft Hands", invest is some quality rail panels/covers. They are cheap considering the overall cost of a build.

[Biggerhammer]

Midwest Industries is a good bang for the buck but if one is talking quality. Then I lean toward Mega, their machining work is out of this world and for those with "Soft Hands", invest is some quality rail panels/covers. Their cheap considering the overall cost of a build.

Pass...

Might be a good idea and you can stop peddling it at the shop.😉

[ellensburgpo]

Why don't you two just measure them and get it over with?

[Biggerhammer]

Why don't you two just measure them and get it over with?

He likes me.😉

[Biggerhammer]

Just stating not my favorite handguard . Once again, you show your anomosity for anyone who doesnt agree with you. 

Hahahaha!

[jackelope]

No way...another thread gone sideways...weird.
 

[Biggerhammer]

Funny how that happens whenever I make a post??  Apologies to the OP.

If you look through your post history, it's you following me. I'll let you play the victim. 

[jackelope]

Funny how that happens whenever I make a post??  Apologies to the OP.

If you look through your post history, it's you following me. I'll let you play the victim. 

Why don't both of you put your personal opinions of each other aside and quit ruining peoples' threads. Its getting ridiculous.

[bearpaw]

Why don't both of you put your personal opinions of each other aside and quit ruining peoples' threads. Its getting ridiculous.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,112660.15.html


Consider this an official warning to avoid each other, we are getting tired of unnecessary comments!

[jaymark6655]

I want a free float quadrail for my DPMS carbine. I know I need the 7" one but what else is needed to put it on ? Thanks Allen

Back to the original topic.

What type of gas block is up front?  Is the rail going to cover it, is there a front sight in the way?  Just some things to consider.

I think almost all free floats come with a special barrel nut of some sort, the normal spring loaded D-ring that normally holds standard handguards in place will no longer work.  If you have a front sight post, it will need to be removed so the tube can slide over the barrel and it might be in the way of the tube depending on what length you get.  Since this part is aligned with the gas port and then a spot for the pin is drilled, changing gas blocks can be a pain and I was told once it would be better to start with a whole new barrel/block combo or cut the front sight off and leave the gas portion of it in place.

[Biggerhammer]

It is simple to drift the pins out of a standard factory front sight post. Most quality gas blocks, low profile or railed come with one or two set screws on the bottom of the block and pins are not needed once the original pins from the factory sight post are removed.

[jaymark6655]

It is simple to drift the pins out of a standard factory front sight post. Most quality gas blocks, low profile or railed come with one or two set screws on the bottom of the block and pins are not needed once the original pins from the factory sigh post are removed.

  I forgot about those.

[Biggerhammer]

One thing to rememeber when your drifting out the pins on a front sight post, the pins are tapered, make sure your drifting them the right way, towards the largest side. In other words, beat on the small end. I place it on a stout wood block with a heavy duty piece of carpet between the sight/barrel combo and the wood block.

[Huntbear]

Here is what I have always used as a gunsmith for driving pins out...

Get yourself a Hockey puck or two..  drill 5 or 6 different sized holes in the puck.. line up the pin with a hole in the puck when driving it out,, NO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER to the finish on the firearm.  Pin is captured into the hole of the puck.  Done deal.

Easy Smeazy Lemon Squeezy...   

I have 4 or 5, of various configurations always around.

[Heredoggydoggy]

Here is what I have always used as a gunsmith for driving pins out...

Get yourself a Hockey puck or two..  drill 5 or 6 different sized holes in the puck.. line up the pin with a hole in the puck when driving it out,, NO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER to the finish on the firearm.  Pin is captured into the hole of the puck.  Done deal.

Easy Smeazy Lemon Squeezy...   

I have 4 or 5, of various configurations always around.

There is a specific block made for this, that the barrel and sight lays in.  One side says "Out", and the other side says "In".  You can't go wrong that way. 

[mountainman]

Here is what I have always used as a gunsmith for driving pins out...

Get yourself a Hockey puck or two..  drill 5 or 6 different sized holes in the puck.. line up the pin with a hole in the puck when driving it out,, NO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER to the finish on the firearm.  Pin is captured into the hole of the puck.  Done deal.

Easy Smeazy Lemon Squeezy...   

I have 4 or 5, of various configurations always around.

There is a specific block made for this, that the barrel and sight lays in.  One side says "Out", and the other side says "In".  You can't go wrong that way. 

[Jim the Plumber]

If you want the best, get a Seekins rail.
http://www.seekinsprecision.com/quad-rails-hand-guards.html

[huntandjeep]

I want a free float quadrail for my DPMS carbine. I know I need the 7" one but what else is needed to put it on ? Thanks Allen

Back to the original topic.

What type of gas block is up front?  Is the rail going to cover it, is there a front sight in the way?  Just some things to consider.

I think almost all free floats come with a special barrel nut of some sort, the normal spring loaded D-ring that normally holds standard handguards in place will no longer work.  If you have a front sight post, it will need to be removed so the tube can slide over the barrel and it might be in the way of the tube depending on what length you get.  Since this part is aligned with the gas port and then a spot for the pin is drilled, changing gas blocks can be a pain and I was told once it would be better to start with a whole new barrel/block combo or cut the front sight off and leave the gas portion of it in place.

         There is no sight on the block, just a rail on the top. Not going to cover it either. Just thinking about getting rid of the original hand guard for something more Tacticool 

[Heredoggydoggy]

YHM makes a free-float handguard that is slotted to go around a military style sight/gas block.  You may need a handguard like that if you don't want to change to a Low Profile gas block, and want a longer handguard.  With a Low Profile gas block, you could even put a Rifle-length handguard on, and hide the gas block completely.  (Looks cool, too!) 

[Blacklab]

Most quality rails come with their own barrel nut and mounting hardware. More often than not, they also come with the Allen wrench or tool to install.

MidWest Indusrties does quality rails for a good price. I have used them on basic AR builds. They are stout, made well and don't break the bank.

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=149

Damn near broke it since I bought two........lol