Master Hunter Question

[Russ McDonald]

I got a question for some of the Master Hunters here.  I have noticed up where I live near Rattle Snake Lake near North Bend a few hunters up there.  It is mostly private property.  I also had a person who lives up there stop me and ask about hunting up there too, it must be because I am in a FS vehicle and wearing camo.  The hunters seem to be hunting on green belts between properties as far as I can tell.  I was told by the person that stopped me was that one hunter is hunting after hours.  Now someone told me that you can't hunt green belts but I am not sure.  The after hours I know isn't right even if your a master hunter.  Night hunting is only for coyotes/varmit correct?  Sorry if I was all over the place.  Thanks for any incite from you all.

[CP]

Master hunters must follow the same shooting hours as everyone else.

[bobcat]

There's no reason you can't hunt a "green belt" as long as you have permission from the landowner(s). I would think a lot of the times a greenbelt might be off limits to hunting due to Homeowners Association rules. But there's no law against it.

[Russ McDonald]

There's no reason you can't hunt a "green belt" as long as you have permission from the landowner(s). I would think a lot of the times a greenbelt might be off limits to hunting due to Homeowners Association rules. But there's no law against it.

That was my thoughts too.  This gal that stopped me was concerned so I just told her to contact the WDFW incase it isn't a master hunters up there.  There are deffinantly elk up there around wear I live.

[bigtex]

Greenbelts between properties..I assume they would fall under the "open and unclaimed land" term?

I know the 460 isn't open for elk, only deer right now.

If it isn't Master Hunters, it may be a tribal hunt. The Muckleshoots have really started to hit the 460 hard the past couple years.

[bobcat]

Greenbelts are private property, I don't see how the Indians would have rights to hunt there.

[PlateauNDN]

Greenbelts are private property, I don't see how the Indians would have rights to hunt there.

As long as permission is documented and secured prior to hunting then yes, we can.  Speaking in general terms as it relates to our regs. on hunting private property on the Rez and Ceded Areas.

[bigtex]

Greenbelts are private property, I don't see how the Indians would have rights to hunt there.

Russ stated they are hunting "greenbelts between properties" doesn't really state they are marked as private, or even if they are private.

If they appear to be "open and unclaimed" (no signs, fences, etc) they can hunt there. Now if turns out the land is private, they cannot be convicted of a crime. In order for a tribal member to be convicted there must be some type of sign/marking.

[PlateauNDN]

Greenbelts are private property, I don't see how the Indians would have rights to hunt there.

Russ stated they are hunting "greenbelts between properties" doesn't really state they are marked as private, or even if they are private.

If they appear to be "open and unclaimed" (no signs, fences, etc) they can hunt there. Now if turns out the land is private, they cannot be convicted of a crime. In order for a tribal member to be convicted there must be some type of sign/marking.

Again, the area has to be clearly and legibly marked as private property otherwise it's considered "open and unclaimed".

[Russ McDonald]

A member on here pointed me ot the King County Parcel view.  I looked at the tract they are hunting and it isn't posted and it show on the parcel view that is it unclaimed land.  http://gismaps.kingcounty.gov/parcelviewer2/ So some visual information to show you what I am talking about.  If you go to North Bend go up Cedar Falls Way.  It is between parcel 0360, 0380 and Cedar Falls Way.  It is labeled TRCT.  Oh by they way you can click on Basemap and put it in the hybrid.  Much easier to view.  I would like to know because 460 is open in the early archery season and I would like to hunt here if at all possible.

[bobcat]

Great! If it's unclaimed land that means I can hunt it too!

Honestly never heard of land that was not owned by anybody.

[Curly]

Great! If it's unclaimed land that means I can hunt it too!

Honestly never heard of land that was not owned by anybody.

 

And I wouldn't use the term "greenbelt" unless it is related to a subdivision.  If it is property that is simply timberland and undeveloped, then I would use the term undeveloped. When I hear the term greenbelt, I think of open space that is set aside as part of a developed property............   

[Goldeneye]

A member on here pointed me ot the King County Parcel view.  I looked at the tract they are hunting and it isn't posted and it show on the parcel view that is it unclaimed land.  http://gismaps.kingcounty.gov/parcelviewer2/ So some visual information to show you what I am talking about.  If you go to North Bend go up Cedar Falls Way.  It is between parcel 0360, 0380 and Cedar Falls Way.  It is labeled TRCT.  Oh by they way you can click on Basemap and put it in the hybrid.  Much easier to view.  I would like to know because 460 is open in the early archery season and I would like to hunt here if at all possible.

If you dig a little deeper the property number is there.  It's 883580trct .  Read the red print of the link I provide.  This is what it says about this tract.  TRCT means multiple owners.  My guess would be a HMO.   http://info.kingcounty.gov/Assessor/eRealProperty/default.aspx?ParcelNbr=883580TRCT 

[Curly]

Ok, so it is a greenbelt/open space area and it is not open and unclaimed. 

For example, I live in a subdivision of 12-lots.  Each of the lot owners has a 1/12th interest is an open space area that is on a creek.  If someone wanted to hunt or fish on the open space property, they would technically need permission from the home owner's association.

[Curly]

BTW - I wonder what makes someone believe there is hunting going on after hours?  Do they hear shooting after dark?  If a guy hunts until dark and then walks out to his truck he will be out after dark, but he may not be hunting after hours.  (Just pointing out the obvious I guess).