Lock The Gates

[boneaddict]

Amen Phool.  Sept ONE and no keys for anyone.

[throttlejocky20]

I supported and will continue to support gated roads, if you really want it then get off of you A#$ and out of your truck and go get it.  That's hunting, not road killing.

[bobcat]

You start giving out keys to some then you'll have to share them with others and you know the ones I'm talking about.  Just be straight across the board no motorized access period or put up gates/barricades.

Good point. You're probably right about that. Scratch that idea.

I'd be for closing roads Sept 1, as long as some main lines are left open, as you also stated in a previous post.

[npaull]

This is why I support the creation of wilderness areas...

In places there are already roads, I like the idea of leaving one main, low-elevation road open for at least most of the season, but gating off all the spurs.

[boneaddict]

I'd even sponsor a gate

[skywalker253]

Who is doing the poaching? Natives? Locals? Everyone? If it is ceaded ground then it is not paoching...right?

[PlateauNDN]

Poaching on one end and overharvesting of another.  It may be legal but, it's not ethical.  I take what I need and that's it, it's not hard.  Do I like seeing certain people non-stop year round going up and shooting everything they see?  No, it's not healthy management of a natural resource, it's abuse of rights and does not reflect the large majority of the group.

[huntnphool]

What is the problem with the gates open now? I am tyring to learn.

My only problem I have with locked gates, is it descriminates older hunters. My dad, is in descent shape for 66 years old he can gets out and hunts. But he cannot hike in several miles and then start pushing canyons. And if he shoots one he is even more screwed, becuase he has to get it out. Imagine applying for sevearal years to get drawn. Then you finally get drawn and they lock the gates on you.

Other then that....go ahead and lock them. I don't have a problem hiking in. But I am also 36 years old and in great shapel.

I feel for the old guys/gals that would not be able to go all the way up in there but thats life. There are lots of things I have had to stop doing as I got older, its just part of life, harsh I know but it is what it is. Its time to do something about this now or there won't be much left for our kids down the road. One of the two groups are going to suffer, the old or the young. Much less people in the long run will be effected if we lock them now.

[MountainWalk]

NO NEW WILDERNESS AREAS!

[MountainWalk]

Why place a premium on one group and not another?

[huntnphool]

This is why I support the creation of wilderness areas...

I don't, I'd hate to see Gregoire have anything to do with hunting or accessing these areas in the future, should she ever get control.

In places there are already roads, I like the idea of leaving one main, low-elevation road open for at least most of the season, but gating off all the spurs.

That would be okay too I guess, as long as the roads off of it were gated.

I'd even sponsor a gate

+1

[kentrek]

NO NEW WILDERNESS AREAS!

what would your solution to the problem be ??

if poaching an over harvest is the issue than a gate would seem like a good idea..

if we manage for our own interests then we are no different than the "greenies"

manage for what good for the area, not the people  (even though there one of the same)

[skywalker253]

Poaching on one end and overharvesting of another.

I'm assuming the poaching is the locals, who feel like the deer are THEIR DEER. And the over harvesting must be natives taking advantage of the system. Why doesn't the game department setup cameras to monitor what is going on? And why doesn't the tribe work with them to monitor the over harvesting. Perhaps they work together and patrol the area to discourage poaching and over harvesting. If you lock the gates, then it gives all the more reason for someone to go back there and feel protected from getting caught. All they are going to do is hike in, take apack, shoot what they want, bone it out, and use a cell phone to call for a ride back.

[huntnphool]

Poaching on one end and overharvesting of another.

I'm assuming the poaching is the locals, who feel like the deer are THEIR DEER. And the over harvesting must be natives taking advantage of the system. Why doesn't the game department setup cameras to monitor what is going on? And why doesn't the tribe work with them to monitor the over harvesting. Perhaps they work together and patrol the area to discourage poaching and over harvesting. If you lock the gates, then it gives all the more reason for someone to go back there and feel protected from getting caught. All they are going to do is hike in, take apack, shoot what they want, bone it out, and use a cell phone to call for a ride back.

Its not going to stop everyone, it will likely stop 95% or more though, and better than status quo.

[BOWHUNTER45]

  gates need to be blowed up ...   seriously though they have their advantages and disadvantages ...the good advantage being it makes better hunting and the disadvantage being it puts to many hunters in areas that are easier to access which does make it sweet for the guy who workS at it the hardest..If they gave us a couple miles of a head start before gating everything off then I would not complain about it but most of the gates are put up near a main rd or hwy and you have to walk for days to get to the good hunting ..I do not mind walking 2 to 5 miles but beyond that is just BS !