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Are you serious? How did this topic end up at a place where we might have our hunting limited? You are nuts! There are ares where deer herds are lacking, agreed but how do you get from an over pressured specific area to a statewide draw system. I didn't know we had an epidemic that wiped out the deer in Washington. Lets not get crazy. This state has a turd load of deer in it!
If this was a vote I would say..phooey on the draw only or closing the season on sunday or even closing any areas before november first or on the raising the permit cost to make it a rich mans sport, its already expensive enough. making the regular season draw only isnt really going to help to take pressure off the deer in question, sure any draw only area is going to have better hunting as less hunters equals better hunting no brainer. but the deer that I think phool is concerned with and the original idea was to protect wally the wall hanger from road hunting/poaching some which is legal poaching but is poaching to me.abuse of rights whatever. the deer that need protection is the Wilderness herd that has nowhere else to go to survive winter. these deer do not need to spend their winter/spring being chased around by trucks, sleds, dogs and dirtbikes. If anyone wants to ever see washington mule deer mature into their potential then helping them get through the winter should be tops on the list. I say close the unit to vehicles after the rifle permit hunt. say november 20th - through may 1. shed hunters can still walk in and that wont hurt the deer much but keep the dogs out. sleds can go play somewhere else, plenty of snow in washington where deer dont winter. open all the roads back up and everyone can drive though and look take their kids up to hunt the local deer. I think this kind of protection should be put in place on all the deer winter ranges where this type of harrasement goes on. Dont take away rights of the normal hunter. just protect the deer from the knuckleheads in our society
Quote from: Seabass on December 14, 2012, 08:51:34 PMThe responses to this thread read like a 10 year old with ADHD. It started out with a talk about protecting wintering animals. How did we end up discussing religion and closing the season on Sundays? Ban shed hunting? I say we disallow left handed hunters and those with brown hair. The guy who thinks people on sleds don't chase deer is BLIND! It happens a lot. I don't need to see a picture (laughable to think you could even capture that) to know it happens. I have seen it and know of others that have seen it as well.I have never seen a poacher nor captured a picture of one. Does that mean poaching doesn't happen? Silly argument.My original post was to relieve the pressure on the deer herds in this state which included a 3 point restriction State wide on all deer and then the implementing of no sunday hunting which would also reduce the pressure on the herds. If we as hunters don't start coming up with something that may not be what we like soon it maybe a draw so that you may only hunt every 2nd or 3rd year and that will cause a poo storm.
The responses to this thread read like a 10 year old with ADHD. It started out with a talk about protecting wintering animals. How did we end up discussing religion and closing the season on Sundays? Ban shed hunting? I say we disallow left handed hunters and those with brown hair. The guy who thinks people on sleds don't chase deer is BLIND! It happens a lot. I don't need to see a picture (laughable to think you could even capture that) to know it happens. I have seen it and know of others that have seen it as well.I have never seen a poacher nor captured a picture of one. Does that mean poaching doesn't happen? Silly argument.
People forget, this is public land and is open to all. Some of our roads say closed from Dec 1st- March 1st or 31st. The gates are there but, are NEVER put up to keep people out. The USFS is too lazy to put existing gates back up. The pieces are laying on the ground right next to the posts. People still go up there anyhow because they don't care about the deer. Not everyone is a hunter in this state and could care less about it. The population out weighs the hunters by far.
Quote from: CAMPMEAT on December 15, 2012, 05:46:29 AMPeople forget, this is public land and is open to all. Some of our roads say closed from Dec 1st- March 1st or 31st. The gates are there but, are NEVER put up to keep people out. The USFS is too lazy to put existing gates back up. The pieces are laying on the ground right next to the posts. People still go up there anyhow because they don't care about the deer. Not everyone is a hunter in this state and could care less about it. The population out weighs the hunters by far.I'm betting the bleeding hearts of King, Pierce and Snohomish counties would vote for it if they knew what was happening.
Quote from: huntnphool on December 15, 2012, 12:07:24 PMQuote from: CAMPMEAT on December 15, 2012, 05:46:29 AMPeople forget, this is public land and is open to all. Some of our roads say closed from Dec 1st- March 1st or 31st. The gates are there but, are NEVER put up to keep people out. The USFS is too lazy to put existing gates back up. The pieces are laying on the ground right next to the posts. People still go up there anyhow because they don't care about the deer. Not everyone is a hunter in this state and could care less about it. The population out weighs the hunters by far.I'm betting the bleeding hearts of King, Pierce and Snohomish counties would vote for it if they knew what was happening. Those are the ones who mainly ruin the entire state anyhow.
