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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2012, 02:12:31 PM »
I wouldn't give the Colvilles a free pass, though I agree their wildlife management is better, but their topography/geology/geography is completely different.   They are after rights to hunt the Methow as we sit and deliberate on this.   They want their ceded lands extended, and are on the verge of getting it.   

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2012, 02:28:36 PM »
I wouldn't give the Colvilles a free pass, though I agree their wildlife management is better, but their topography/geology/geography is completely different.   They are after rights to hunt the Methow as we sit and deliberate on this.   They want their ceded lands extended, and are on the verge of getting it.
Who is going to give it up?  And why is this not publicly known?

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2012, 06:38:43 PM »
Wish the WA tribes would get a their act together. Look how AZ and NM tribes have world class management of their reservations. Tribal hunting is limited and tags to non tribal people pay big bucks to hunt.

Are the Indians shooting doe up their to or just bucks? Either way it's bad. A majority of the doe are prego, Some with twins. All these deer add up to a big number.

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2012, 07:05:06 PM »
Why would they shoot does. they dont have antlers. :chuckle: Shootin bucks means more showing off! Yet another kick in the nads to NON natives!

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2012, 07:11:24 PM »
And they like to preach that it was the "white man" that wiped out the buffalo, yeah right!
  how many years ago was that?  I think we have figured out we need to manage the wildlife better now.  That goes for everyone!

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2012, 07:13:45 PM »
we have been dealing with this in the yakima unit for a while.  Just got word of a few more bucks being killed in the Entiat and that the Colville Indians are killing them too.  Over the past 15 years i can personally account for 15 bulls being shot in late august and september during the rut while I was hunting or just up taking pictures that indians have shot by Yakimas,  thats right the hunting portion of the tribe does not have my respect to be called Yakamas, when Delbert Wheeler has 6 bulls hanging in nile valley Meats at any given time, I am tired of being a conservationist and seeing our herds getting slaughtered during the elk rut and on the mule deer wintering grounds.  No herd can handle the 100+ deer bucks they have already taken in the entiat.  If they were good conservationists there would still be ANIMALS TO TAKE ON THE RESERVATION.  Oh wait that would mean they would have to get more than 50 yards off the road.  If they would manage their herds like the White Apache or Jicarilla indian res. do they could charge and have one of the supreme elk herds in the pacific northwest or even the western united states......

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2012, 07:57:24 PM »
lol! no they cannot have hunts like the arizona and new mexico reservations do! The great state of washington will not allow you to hunt there!lol  colville tribe tried to have non member bear hunts and state said sorry we control non members so we will arrest and cite non members when they come off the reservation with a bear! its a complex thing!

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2012, 08:06:10 PM »
because the tribes havnt pushed it.   When i was guiding in new mexico and southern colorado they went through the same thing, according to some tribe members that I know, so dont say it cant be done.  They just havent went about it the right way,...  BUt that is not what my post was about,, that was just the minor detail you just wished to respond to.

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2012, 08:07:43 PM »
Why are non members allowed to hunt bears on the Quinault reservation then?

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2012, 08:13:03 PM »
lol! no they cannot have hunts like the arizona and new mexico reservations do! The great state of washington will not allow you to hunt there!lol  colville tribe tried to have non member bear hunts and state said sorry we control non members so we will arrest and cite non members when they come off the reservation with a bear! its a complex thing!

I dont think thats correct, as stated the quinalts guide bear with hounds and bait. From what I've heard, its totally up to the tribe. Most that I know do not allow hunting for nonmembers on their reservations. Can't even tag along on a hunt

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2012, 08:21:55 PM »
i don't know about the quinault reservation! i just know it was a big deal because of the compact that the state has with colville reservation!  i don't know if you know this but non member owned land within the bounds of the colville reservation is closed to hunting by the state not the tribe! the tribe has limited jursidiction on those lands so in reality state could open hunting on the reservation on non member land which is about 40 percent non member owned!lol but back to topic its a really easy fix, gate and non motorized vehicles come dec.1!  they do it in sherman creek wildlife area and vulcan mtn. saves the wintering grounds, if its forest service land its a federal law which even tribes have to abide by!

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2012, 08:23:10 PM »
my great uncle(80 years old) is a quinalt, and I was able to tag along and be a packer.....according to him!!!!!  He was regulated and able to shoot two deer and two elk annually...this was ten years ago mind you.  All I was saying in my first post is that I as well as many other hunters in Washington state are fed up, with the overtaking of animals on our land.  and I say our land, because we pay taxes.....!

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2012, 08:24:19 PM »
Agree with COUGARBART

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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2012, 08:31:51 PM »
i just came up with the best idea ever! we can get tow truck drivers together to offer the indians a special deal on all the cars parked in front of thier houses. tow the cars to all the wintering grounds and pile the cars at the enterances that alone would stop the indians from getting to the deer and elk.  :tup:
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Re: Entiat slaughter??
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2012, 08:52:54 PM »
i just came up with the best idea ever! we can get tow truck drivers together to offer the indians a special deal on all the cars parked in front of thier houses. tow the cars to all the wintering grounds and pile the cars at the enterances that alone would stop the indians from getting to the deer and elk.  :tup:
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