Entiat slaughter??

[Yak-NDN]

People on the rez are not ok with what is going on but we need facts.

[Mr Mykiss]

Seriously what "poaching ring" puts all of their poached animals in the back of a truck and drives around? Seriously1: What game official drives a tiny truck like that (if those deer are in the back of the game wardens tuck)

Bowtech comment: I was going to say, at least they all appear to be does. (some places have waaaay too many does)

[Bigtine96]

So tired of hearing that b.s. they know exactly whats going on proof or not, they will not do a damn thing and you know it.

[_TONY_]

People on the rez are not ok with what is going on but we need facts.

Seems to me it would be pretty easy for them to gather facts just by simply taking a drive up there and seeing it for themselves...

[Mr Mykiss]

Seems to me it would be pretty easy for them to gather facts just by simply taking a drive up there and seeing it for themselves...

TONY. That's just crazy talk and we won't stand for it on this site.

[grundy53]

People on the rez are not ok with what is going on but we need facts.

Seems to me it would be pretty easy for them to gather facts just by simply taking a drive up there and seeing it for themselves...

Or they could just go hunting with their buddies that are doing the killing....

[_TONY_]

Seems to me it would be pretty easy for them to gather facts just by simply taking a drive up there and seeing it for themselves...

TONY. That's just crazy talk and we won't stand for it on this site.

Noted 

Ok if you guys just want to complain and advertise where to go hunt just continue what you are doing and nothing well be done just like before. Or you can tell yourself im going to try and help the issue.

Pretty sure it lands more in you and your tribal members hands, then ours... This issue is very simular to tribes gillnetting ESA listed fish in specific  river systems... There's not much we can do to change things, it has to come from from the tribes/feds, themselves. All we're left doing is, in your own words, is "complain and advertise"

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

[huntnfmly]

LRW you and your attitude towards this situation is disgusting.I am tired of hearing the BS of funerals or name givings as the reason you kill so many animals. Once again you and anybody that thinks and do as you do are disgusting and a terrible representative of your people

[PlateauNDN]

The appearance of that picture does not provide credible proof.  From a legal stand-point it does not display any identifiable markings, who was driving, where was this taken, when was this taken, what were the circumstances/situation of this picture?  These are questions I have because I don't have any info. other than "here's a picture of a truck with deer in it" that could be written off as anything without any of the above questions answered. 

So tired of hearing that b.s. they know exactly whats going on proof or not, they will not do a damn thing and you know it.

And you know this how?  Obviously you must be in constant and even more contact than me with our Tribal Council to know that.

People on the rez are not ok with what is going on but we need facts.

Seems to me it would be pretty easy for them to gather facts just by simply taking a drive up there and seeing it for themselves...

It's difficult to be at a location "hoping" to see something.  The many times I hunt in the Ceded Areas I rarely see another native and that could be because I'm usually a couple of miles in on foot....The last 2 times I was in the Ceded Area I saw 2 different natives in 2 different locations and they were cruising the roads.  When they stopped by to talk about "where's the elk" I calmly and kindly pointed up the hill and said that way.

So if I were to drive up there today I'd see similar events that have transpired?  Again, I'm not denying that they didn't occur I just want to know if you know for sure similar events are occuring right now, today?

People on the rez are not ok with what is going on but we need facts.

Seems to me it would be pretty easy for them to gather facts just by simply taking a drive up there and seeing it for themselves...

Or they could just go hunting with their buddies that are doing the killing....

Really?  Just because we're from the same Tribe we're buddies?  I don't know them personally, nor did I grow up with them or go to the same school as them so what makes you think they're my buddies?  If that's the case then tell your buddies to come pick up the deer they shot and left in the Wenas during  the modern season.

Seems to me it would be pretty easy for them to gather facts just by simply taking a drive up there and seeing it for themselves...

TONY. That's just crazy talk and we won't stand for it on this site.

Noted 

Ok if you guys just want to complain and advertise where to go hunt just continue what you are doing and nothing well be done just like before. Or you can tell yourself im going to try and help the issue.

Pretty sure it lands more in you and your tribal members hands, then ours... This issue is very simular to tribes gillnetting ESA listed fish in specific  river systems... There's not much we can do to change things, it has to come from from the tribes/feds, themselves. All we're left doing is, in your own words, is "complain and advertise"

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

I'm not denying the fact it lands on our doorstep.  I've been trying to make a case but, I can't be in the entiat or the colockum to gather the credible intel needed and when I've asked for assistance all I get is what's occuring now.  Blame game, name calling and we should miraculously know.  I didn't know about Aaron's exploits in the Colockum and didn't even know or what the colockum is till I came here, I didn't know about phil and his exploits til I came here and you expect our Leaders to know? 

All I've been asking for and there is quite a few that have sent me credible stuff that is backed with credible witnesses and that's helping not sitting here passing fake pics and name calling/bashing.  Not sitting here saying we should know everything about everybody because they're our buddies.  If it's occuring then testify to it, put it on paper and swear to what you saw, that's doing something.  If all you're going to do is sit here and be a part of the problem then why should I continue to listen to you if you're not willing to take your account of events and make it official?

Those that have stepped forward I applaud you because you're helping make a difference and are looking for a solution, thank you.

[6x6in6]

LRW you and your attitude towards this situation is disgusting.I am tired of hearing the BS of funerals or name givings as the reason you kill so many animals. Once again you and anybody that thinks and do as you do are disgusting and a terrible representative of your people

If it's BS, post the proof.  This is precisely what is needed in an attempt to stop this.

[jackelope]

If anyone has real proof of what's going on up there in the form of photos then please share. If you can't back up the evidence  them don't bother posting it.

[idahoelkhunter300wby]

. It's how it was then and it's how it is now... I hunter

Hey Phil and Dustin,

     Did your ancestors stop by Tony's market and get a half rack of Busch light on their way to Entiat or Colockum?  Did they drive a 4wheel drive truck on state and federal hiways and maintained roads?  Did they use a scoped rifle and assult weapons?
     Old man Scroggie told me once that if the tribes want to claim that they can hunt when and where they want just because thats what their ancestors did, well then he should be allowed to shoot at em with a 30-30 cause thats what his ancestors did. Moral of the story: times change. Game laws change.... So should your over harvesting and wastage.
     You don't have ANYTHING in common with your ancestors and you should not be allowed to do what YOU think that they used to do.
     If a guy wanted to stop by and watch you enjoy some of that ethically harvested game, which place should he stop by?

[boneaddict]

I've got a serious question.....what ever happened to theoretical proof?   If something seems wrong then why does there have to be proof.  It seems obvious that in todays age there shouldn't be unlimited catch limits, unlimited harvest limits etc.   What if I were an enrolled member and I decided I should harvest every single buck I see instead of photographing them.  What if even my limit was 20.   I could bust one, give it to someone I don't know, go bust another give it to my uncle , go bust another put that one in the fridge, bust another and celebrate the winter solstice, bust another for the family down the street.......on and on.   Its surprising to me that the concept of going on the winter range and killing as many big bucks as I can find in any given area isn't a red flag.   
Imagine if every deer I post a photo of on here I kill.   I get within 30 yards on almost all of them.  I could do it with my bow let alone a 30-06.   Does that seem OK?  Its not even fathonable to me. 

I guess I love wildlife and nature too much. 

[bobcat]

Why is proof needed? The slaughter of mule deer that is happening is legal. The only law they may be violating is selling the meat.

The Entiat herd cannot sustain this much harvest for much longer. So why can't the Yakama tribe simply end the season by at least November 30, and limit each person to one deer?

The excessively long hunting season with no limit on the number of deer killed is the problem. Also the tribe needs to step up it's enforcement in hunting areas outside the reservation.

You would think a place that gets hunted as much as the Entiat would have tribal enforcement there on a regular basis.

[Mr Mykiss]

That's a "Bone-Bomb" right there son!!!