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Should the Johnny King buck be scored as a Typical or Non-Typical?

Typical
122 (69.3%)
Non-Typical
32 (18.2%)
Undecided
12 (6.8%)
I would have passed him!
10 (5.7%)

Total Members Voted: 176

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Re: Johhny King Buck Finally to See Boone and Crockett Panel (poll)
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2012, 05:16:24 AM »
its not up to anyone who can score it one way or the other..for it to be non typ it has to have a certain % of abnormal points to qualify in the non typ category.

that tine is not a seperate tine..its a abnormal and shares a common base with the g2..if this buck is allowed then the Alberta giant that guy arrowed a few years ago should also be allowed thats what took him out of the world record archery typical

I think what he meant by the poll is if the g3s should be Typical or nontypical thus resulting in a 180 score versus 215 or whatever it was

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Re: Johhny King Buck Finally to See Boone and Crockett Panel (poll)
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2012, 05:28:33 AM »
its not up to anyone who can score it one way or the other..for it to be non typ it has to have a certain % of abnormal points to qualify in the non typ category.

that tine is not a seperate tine..its a abnormal and shares a common base with the g2..if this buck is allowed then the Alberta giant that guy arrowed a few years ago should also be allowed thats what took him out of the world record archery typical

I think what he meant by the poll is if the g3s should be Typical or nontypical thus resulting in a 180 score versus 215 or whatever it was

Yes, I should have specified "Should the g-3 be scored as typical or non-typical?"
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Re: Johhny King Buck Finally to See Boone and Crockett Panel (poll)
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2012, 09:42:46 AM »
Anyone else notice that Cousins probably had to cancel his credit card after making that video. :dunno:  Nothing like making your point at the expense of your entire bank account :yike:  Not a smart move there Bucko :o

:chuckle: I did notice that and thought the same thing.

He makes some sense out of much of the confusion.  I just wish the rack had not been sold to Fish and was still in the possession of Mr. King.  Though honestly I have never understood the bounty of possessing the fruits or trophy of someone else's labor.  Where do you find pride of ownership in that case?

I wished it hadn't been sold either. I can understand wanting to own antlers. Some antler collectors hardly hunt but just love collecting antlers. They find them fascinating..as do I. I offered a guy some money for an Idaho dead head this year (probably 180 inch 4x4 whitetail frame...giant!!). Unfortunately he had already given it away for free to someone who knew what they were looking at.  :yike:  I found it fascinating because it was a 100% mountain buck.. no agriculture. I admit... Even though I didn't find it... I wanted it. Simply amazed by it.

Nice post DBHAWTHORNE.  I am glad you made the statement, "...I do think B&C (right or wrong) did their reputation no favors in the way they addressed this matter."  They have been pushing a lot of members towards SCI.  This whole thing is probably going to push even more people that direction.  We can respectfully agree or disagree with Cousins.  However, I think most of us will agree that B&C could have handled this in a manner that was more civil and definately with more class.

These days I certainly lean more towards SCI. That being said in my dealings with B&C they have been very responsive and I do enjoy their online Trophy Search and subscribe to it every year. I personally wish someone would come up with a displacement method for measuring antlers.

I had never gotten as good a look at that buck as I did tonight on that video.  I had always thought that left side was more definitively non-typical.  I was wrong!  I am now swinging more toward "Typical".  Thank you for posting those links.

I also had never got as good look at the rack as I did in that video. I have seen photos that make it appear to be typical point and photos that make it appear to be a non-typical. After seeing it in that video and after hearing Craig's explanation I am 100% convinced it's a typical point unless B&C comes up with better explanation as to why it is not a typical point.
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Re: Johhny King Buck Finally to See Boone and Crockett Panel (poll)
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2012, 10:19:02 AM »
"money grabbing shenanigan."

and people think we get caught up on scores on here.    Love the caption of why he sold the deer.  It was becoming too much to handle fighting for justice....... :chuckle:

After reading the story I think this is a reasonable explanation. I personally would like to see the buck get the recognition it deserves. The guy tried to have B&C look at it for three years. When Fish bought it B&C said that he was shopping for a score... Ironically when they said that he had never had it scored by a measurer and was only asking for it to be panel scored.
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Re: Johhny King Buck Finally to See Boone and Crockett Panel (poll)
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2012, 10:22:38 AM »
Hadn't it already been panel scored once at that time?   If not, I missed that part. 

 


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