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Offline GEARHEAD

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Re: Have at me....
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2012, 02:47:00 PM »
Lightning kills more people in this country than mass shooters. we are a country of 300 million. 100 million of us own or have access to a gun. there are as many guns as there are cars in this Country. Cars killed over 30,000 last year, guns killed a third of that. Assault style rifles are a tiny fraction of those deaths, and maybe more than half of those are officers defending themselves. 50 percent more people have been murdered by something other than a gun, (hands, feet, knife, bat) There are more people carrying concealed and open carry firearms than ever before, and as that number has been increasing over the decades, coincidentally, firearm murders have been on a consistent decline. (maybe related, maybe not, dunno) There are less firearm murders today than in the last 30-40 or so years. In This Country, so far anyways, we have averaged a mass shooting such as the recent tragedy, about one incident,  for every 236 years.  The only thing that has increased,.... is the quality of media coverage and technology. Everybody has access to, and  the ability to film events,  more people than ever before now have a platform to air their thoughts, fears and observations. it simply brings things near and far closer together, making incidents artificially close. I am in my 40's, and gun violence has been going down most of my life. When there is a problem, i will happily rethink my current stance, but for now i will keep my AR and my Glock.

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Re: Have at me....
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2012, 04:20:13 PM »
“When someone persuades me that I’m wrong, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" - Variously attributed.

As an honest answer, I’ve been persuaded and have changed my mind on something.

Hopefully you will change your mind again once you realize you are wrong about wanting gun control.  You can't protect your granddaughter from all the crazies of the world; why not allow her to grow-up with the rights that you currently have so she can choose to protect herself and her family if she wishes?

She will be able to protect herself when she grows up.  Just maybe not with an AK or AR or whatever ends up on a gun ban (if they have one).  Myself, I would rather defend somone breaking into my home with a shotgun filled with double 00 then an AR. As far as defending myself on the street, once again I pick a handgun over an AR or AK.  Not sure where an AK or AR would benefit anyone in protecting themselves??  Most SWAT team that do use ARs only do so because they are fully auto, otherwise there isnt much benefit to having one when doing tactical entries.
IF an AR isnt an effective CQB and tactical weapon then why don't they use the MP5 or something shorter like a short shot gun with double OO buck shot? :dunno:

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Re: Have at me....
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2012, 08:22:25 PM »
Larry S, you have lost it. Imagine your precious grand kids living in another area of the world. Your ideas will not solve anything. Stop trying to diminish my rights to satisfy your dream.
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Re: Have at me....
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2012, 08:42:14 PM »
Larry.

You are welcomed to join me on a tour of the Southern border with Mexico. I will show you some beautiful hunting properties that are sparsely populated by ranchers and farmers. I'd like you to look in their eye and tell them that while Chairman Maobama found it acceptable to sell 30 round magazines and magazine fed semi automatic rifles to the Sinaloa Cartel, that you and Senator Frankenstein think that these ranchers should watch smugglers trespass and liter on their land and that the ranchers should only have a lever action gun to defend themselves.


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Re: Have at me....
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2013, 10:12:36 AM »
There comes a point ...

Great post arees.  Thoughtful, well-written and conversational in tone.   :tup:

 


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