Death of Alpha Wolf Sparks Renewed Concern over Hunting

[predatorpro]

is there anyway we can stand behind this hunter and support him? anyone here good at writing articles?

[bearpaw]

MFWP shut down hunting right outside the park, but a judge overturned the closure and opened it back up for hunting.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/7772544ff89a48d0a7a6d3f843925829/MT--Yellowstone-Wolves

[Austrian Hunter]

I'd love to have her in my man cave as a conversation piece, lol.

[longrangekiller]

Wack em and stack em

[lokidog]

Is there a reward for turning one of those collars back in?  Kind of like the specially tagged fish in a derby.   

[carpsniperg2]

 

[CAMPMEAT]

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[GUscottie]

 

[mdbuck5x5]

a "positive impact" on the park's wildlife/plants?  What the??? Last I checked yellowstone park went from 20k elk to less than 5k. Yellowstone is dying thanks to a disease we introduced into the park called the wolf.  This narrow minded approached from the pro-wolf folks is sickening. All they are about is the wolf...not any other animals.

That was my thoughts exactly! Where the hell does this b@#$% get her info from anyways!    I mean just go ahead and make some crap up to push your agenda on people! Montana, Idaho and Wyoming keep doing what you're doing! Kill all them mongrels! 

[JLS]

a "positive impact" on the park's wildlife/plants?  What the??? Last I checked yellowstone park went from 20k elk to less than 5k. Yellowstone is dying thanks to a disease we introduced into the park called the wolf.  This narrow minded approached from the pro-wolf folks is sickening. All they are about is the wolf...not any other animals.

Actually, from a broad ecosystem perspective the wolves have helped the Northern Yellowstone range.  The elk numbers there in the 90's were incredibly high, and you could see the overgrazing.  That's why Montana was able to shoot hundreds of elk every year in the Gardiner late hunt, the numbers were way out of whack.

Yellowstone is not dying from the wolves any more than it died from the '88 fires.  They each have their place and have an ugly side to them too.

I won't lose any sleep over this wolf being shot outside the park, collared or not.  We shoot collared elk, deer, and sheep every year and I've never heard anyone complain about that.

[bearpaw]

Yes, those wolves have saved thousands of Montana people from having to take the time to go hunting and put meat in their freezer, thankfully we have those wolves to trim our herds by up to 90%. Wolves are our savior!

[JLS]

Yes, those wolves have saved thousands of Montana people from having to take the time to go hunting and put meat in their freezer, thankfully we have those wolves to trim our herds by up to 90%. Wolves are our savior!

If your quote was directed at me, I don't think wolves are our savior, and I never said that they were.

I doubt that it was a goal of the National Park Service to maintain an overinflated elk herd so that Montanans could shoot them for two months in the winter.  By saying that, I'm not taking a jab at the hunt.  It was unique and neat in it's own way and was part of the Gardiner culture.

My point was, that wolves have not been completely detrimental to the Yellowstone ecosystem if you are looking at it from a big picture point of view.

[mdbuck5x5]

a "positive impact" on the park's wildlife/plants?  What the??? Last I checked yellowstone park went from 20k elk to less than 5k. Yellowstone is dying thanks to a disease we introduced into the park called the wolf.  This narrow minded approached from the pro-wolf folks is sickening. All they are about is the wolf...not any other animals.

Actually, from a broad ecosystem perspective the wolves have helped the Northern Yellowstone range.  The elk numbers there in the 90's were incredibly high, and you could see the overgrazing.  That's why Montana was able to shoot hundreds of elk every year in the Gardiner late hunt, the numbers were way out of whack.

Yellowstone is not dying from the wolves any more than it died from the '88 fires.  They each have their place and have an ugly side to them too.

I won't lose any sleep over this wolf being shot outside the park, collared or not.  We shoot collared elk, deer, and sheep every year and I've never heard anyone complain about that.

Are you kidding me? I really don't understand your reasoning on this at all. So you're basically saying the wolves did what no other Montana resident could do, bring the population down? The fires were temporary and the wolves are permanent, so you can throw that comparison out the window!

[JLS]

So the elk would summer in the park and winter at the edge of the park/out of the park in the Yellowstone Valley.  The only way Montanans could put a dent in the numbers was to shoot them in January and February when they came out of the park for lower winter range.  There actually is quantifiable range data to show the improvements inside the park, but I'll let you look for them if you wish.  I am guessing you don't want to see it and that's fine.

[bearpaw]

At any time if the elk herds truly needed trimmed, the MFWP, WDFG, and IDFG could have allowed increased hunter opportunity to trim the herds that migrate out of the park.

Now that wolves have over eaten the park elk, they are moving out of the park and devouring surrounding herds that never entered the park. This has turned into a disaster for game management.