bad week

[sivart33]

so i had some trouble with my 30-06 the bolt was sticking after the shot.  so i cleaned it heavly and lubed it up, went out shooting agian to make sure it was on target for season.   well it stuck again, talked to someone at the shooting range, they pointed me to new bullets maybe it was the bullets where a bad batch.

so i went out got some new bullets (different company and 150 grain, use to be 180 grain)  so the i shot those and the bolt is still sticking.....

its not like its a little dificult to open , no i am having to hit it hard and put a lot of force on the bolt to open it.  no stretching of the bolt, nothign looks wrong with the barrel bolt or gun.   kinda sucks that i need to either get it fixed ebfore season or pick up a new gun :/

if anyone has seen this before i would love to hear. its a remington 710 i know its a cheap gun but worked well bofore this, worked perfectly till about 1 month ago when it started acting up and have put prob 30 rounds though it before this incedent.  well i am prob getting a 243 or 6mm for dear this year so i can also use it for yotes and bobcat(if its not a to big calliber).  just wanted to vnet and see if anyone knows what to do maybe there is somethign i am over looking.

[robodad]

Could you have caused a burr in the breech with one of your tools and don't know it till the brass has expanded ?? Look over the brass with a magnifying glass, it will tell you where the problem lies, unless it is actually the ejector maybe it is bent or something !! 

[jackelope]

have you had the stock off of it recently?

[ThePascoKid]

are you shooting reloads or factory ammo?  This exact same thing happened to a buddy of mine with reloads, we think he may not have got the cases fully re-sized.  He went back to factory ammo and no problems.  Be careful forcing your bolt open he did the same thing and busted his ejector pin.  Hope this helps.

[Crunchy]

All you need is one shot, so dont sweat it

[sivart33]

its factory ammo, also looking the cartage there is a nick out fo it but all the other cartages that ahve been stuck in it look normal nothign wrong maybe 1 more shot to see if the same nick will show up.  yea 1 shot is all you need but you never know what will happen...  what should i do, ill prob calling remington tomorow and look around for a gun smith. yea i have taken off the stock recently but that was after the firsttime it got stuck, i removed it and started taking apart the gun to remove the bolt but didn't break it apart much past that since i didn't feel confortable past removing stock. ( i put everthing back 100% like it was)  so after season ill take ti to a gun smith to see what he/she thinks.   right know i am sure most are swamped, any other info would be apriceated.

only thing that is wierd it is only after it is shot it does that.  also emptys will not go back in or the lastest one i shot.

[wrangler]

your loads are too hot. look for extracor marks on the head of the case. the case is over expanding in the chamber and sticking. go down in .5 grain incriminates until it frees up. if you're shooting factory loads you might have an issue on your hands...  

[jackelope]

its a remington 710

its factory ammo

[huntnfmly]

I had the same thing happen to me.I had my rifle rechambered from 30-06 to 300win.Took it back to gunsmith with the casings that made the bolt stick and it was a quick fix no big deal.
jim

[wrangler]

yeah, just noticed that... sounds like your chamber is oversized... it's allowing the cases to expand too much. i don't shoot factory ammo so im not sure if you can even get 'practice' or 'target' loads for an '06, but these would usually be fairly low pressure loads, give those a try and see if it still sticks.

[jackelope]

maybe one of those managed recoil rounds?

[MHWASH]

I had a simular problem several years ago. My problem was a rusted chamber. Apperently I did not get all the mouister out.

Take it to a smith soon, they will get very busy real soon. My problem got bad enough the bolt handle came of in my hand.

[sivart33]

i might try recleaningthe chamber to get any rust out but yea ill hit up some gun smiths in the area i know of one but he was filled till/though hunting season.  ansl illl take another shot in it to see what happens cause the shot t took today, the bolt opened with a little less hitting which is still bad.

[12Gauge]

Sounds like the chamber has burrs in it from manufacturing.  You need to polish the chamber.  You can take it to a gun smith for polishing or you can use a green scotch pad and a clean rod

[jeepasaurusrex]

Wouldn't hurt to contact Remington and see what they can do. My Dad had the same issue with a 700SPS and they replaced it free.

[ICEMAN]

Sometimes less lubrications is better.... If you heavily grease the chamber in anticipation of sticking, you end up causing trouble. go light with lube...

Also, it may not even be related to the chamber. Check to see if any assembly screws or scope mounts screws protrude into the bolt channel, and are causing binding, they may have been switched in error during your reassembly... sometimes, you can get the wrong screw in the wrong place, and this may cause trouble.

[Gutpile]

Not trying to be a jerk but I'd sell it. 710's have had nothing but problems and several recalls. They were discontinued because of that. I'd swap it out for a savage if your still wanting and inexpensive rifle. IMO it's not worth the hassle considering this probably wont be the last problem you have with it. Be done with it and save yourself the heartache.

[robodad]

Not trying to be a jerk but I'd sell it. 710's have had nothing but problems and several recalls. They were discontinued because of that. I'd swap it out for a savage if your still wanting and inexpensive rifle. IMO it's not worth the hassle considering this probably wont be the last problem you have with it. Be done with it and save yourself the heartache.

This is exactly the kind of crap that I hate to see happen, it is obviously broken and yet you want to pass it on to another unsuspecting hunter, maybe even a youth hunter that would be extremely happy to have a new gun and then find out it is a lemon, how devastating that would be.

I would say to do your best to fix it weather sending it back to Remington or through a gunsmith but please don't pass it on to someone else unless you fully disclose it's issues 

[Gutpile]

Wow! I dont recall saying to go sell it to some unsuspecting teenager. I don't remember saying he shouldn't disclose the problem. All I said was get out of it. GEEZ!
 

[robodad]

I wasn't necessarily singling you out Gutpile, I was stating that is sucks that people have something that they know is severely messed up and just sell it to someone and not telling them it has issues and they figure it out on their own !!

Example, I just bought an item from someone that described it quite differently then it's actual condition and even though I have the means to fix it I was still upset that he would "get out of it" without letting me know exactly what I was getting.

Sorry if I made it seem as if you are a bad guy, it was not my intent. Just the idea in general is what I was trying to portray.

[Gutpile]

Fair enough. I may have jumped the gun a little.

[Intruder]

I don't recall seeing it in the prior post but does it cycle rounds OK before you shoot em?  The times I've seen sticky bolts it usually boiled down to 2 things:
1.  Too hot a load (not the case here more than likely cuz you're using factory.... have seen it w/ factory stuff one time though)
2.  Ejector problem.  Not familiar with the ejector on the 710 but I'm assuming it would be similiar to other Rems.  Anyway if it is an ejector issue, it will normally act up even when cycling unshot rounds.

Also, doesn't the 710 have a plastic clip magazine?  You may want to try and cycling it without that in it.  Or if it just a floor plate open it up so it isn't in play.  I seem to recall that those 710s had issue with the magazines. 

I don't think it would be burring in the chamber since it was working OK previously.... that's usually something you'd see right away.  It doesn't sound like you've really shot it a ton so it seems less likely there's some major issue with the chamber itself   

I tend to agree with Gutpile on this.  Life is too short to mess with a gun that doesn't perform.  You may end up spending 100 bucks to fix a 250$ gun.  May be better to just take your lumps and sell at a discount and move on.
 

[jeepasaurusrex]

Fair enough. I may have jumped the gun a little.

Nice pun! 

[Slenk]

Check your Action & Scope Base screws . See if one is dragging on the bolt.
Slenk

[sivart33]

bolt moves freely with and with out a bullet in it, its only when  it is shot it has the issues, a non shot bullet will slide in and out of the chamber freely, with adn with out mag in it. so i am calling them here in a bit.

[Mike450r]

It has already been said but I will say it too as I am 99% sure you have a slightly oversized chamber.  I have seen it quite a bit.  My trusty 30-.06 has the same problem with Remington and Winchester ammo among others but works flawlessly with Federal.  Years back I tried some El Dorado ammo and I didn't think I wouold get the spent case to eject.  What brand of ammo are you shooting?  A simple change can usually stop the jamming.

Brass is different by manufacturer.  Outside deminsions are the same but case thickness differs as does the way the brass expands when fired.  In my opinion the best brass from mainstream brands is Federal.  If not shooting Federal give it a try.

[follow maggie]

Try Ed Lapour in Bremerton.  He repaired one of my rifles for a me a few years back- did a good job for reasonable charge.  http://www.edlapourgunsmithing.com/

[Big Bucks Tim]

I had the same problem with my 710 30.06 a couple years ago when I was shooting reloads I swithed it to factory 180 grain Core Locks and haven't had a problem since.

[Big Bucks Tim]

Also, doesn't the 710 have a plastic clip magazine?  You may want to try and cycling it without that in it.  Or if it just a floor plate open it up so it isn't in play.  I seem to recall that those 710s had issue with the magazines. 

Nope.  I have one and it has a metal clip with a rubber bottom (most likley for comfort)

[thinkingman]

I helped a guy sight in a .270 710 last year and I couldn't lift the bolt without pinning the rifle down with my left hand and using all my weight, lift the bolt with my right hand.
This was with factory ammo.
I couldn't believe it.
POS.
Sorry if this isn't helpful, but it does seem to indicate a trend.

[C-Money]

Look at Marlins new XL7 rifle. Cost is around $300. You may just have to take a beatting on getting it traded out. Let the dealer know what it is doing and get away from the 710! Dealers should give something, not much, but something to help ease the cost of the new rifle, but get it done soon! Now is the time to trade with modern season just around the corner!