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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2013, 01:08:03 PM »
You haven't done enough euro's yet.  They will go back in the same spot but might not line up like they were originally, especially on smaller teeth like on cats.

Like I said, its pretty easy to tell when you put a tooth in the wrong spot. Never done a house cat but I've done done plenty of skulls. The teeth in question are all in the proper place. In my novice opinion of course.  :bow:

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2013, 01:24:13 PM »
I think its the same skull but the pic is really blurry.

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2013, 01:48:21 PM »
After my missplaced teeth thought, I do believe it is the origianal skull.

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2013, 02:42:21 PM »
It is possible that the person who did the skull did several in one container and when the teeth fell out they got mixed up.  There is no telling every taxidermist/Skull Cleaner has there own way of doing things.  Is it the right way?  Maybe not to some or most.  Ya never know.  Some of the teeth may have come from another skull? 

I have done a ton of skulls and most of the time the teeth will only fit in the holes they came from.  Not every time though.  Sometimes the front teeth can fit in other skulls but they just won't line up quite right.  To most they will look fine but to a trained eye you can see where they don't match up.

I always macerate my skulls in individual containers to prevent teeth from becoming mixed up.  I pull the skulls out of the Maceration and put them in the degreaser in the same container they came from.  Then I pull the teeth and put each skulls teeth in there own individual zip lock bag with the coresponding number until I am ready to whiten. 

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2013, 02:51:24 PM »
I agree with Alan and Bone. The top row, 2nd from center left looks very different.  I would say that there are some pretty obvious differences.
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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2013, 02:51:35 PM »
Thats a good point though Michelle I hadn't thought of that. Thats definitely a possibility, I do it the same way as you in separate containers, at least for predator type skulls.

I'm still curious what made you question if its your bear's skull?

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2013, 03:02:45 PM »
I am no expert, but based on the pics provided some of the teeth do look different.
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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2013, 05:47:45 PM »
definitely looks like different teeth to me. is it weird to question if you got the right skull? that was the first thing i did with mine.

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2013, 08:09:51 PM »
Wow the feedback is great here.  Could go either way. He did check the pics right away and he noticed a difference in shapes. He just got it back a few weeks ago.  The first pic with hair looked like flat teeth and the skull picture looked way pointier shaped.  I could only find one picture with hair. I still haven't told him about thisquestion I posted on here dont want him to be mad for doing it . If you were him would you call the skull cleaner guy and ask him about it?  Thanks agin

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2013, 08:17:25 PM »
Guess you better take some DNA samples.   :chuckle:   The K-9 teeth line up exactly in both pictures.  Go get two skulls and set them side by side, I guarantee the K-9 teeth will NOT look the same.

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2013, 08:20:15 PM »
i look and what keeps getting me is the field pix the gum line is there and then not after cleaned! i think they look different just because you see the whole tooth paint a gum line on the pix and look!lol

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2013, 08:29:48 PM »
The shapes of all the teeth look different between the two pictures, the teeth on the bear he killed look more worn and flat k9's look dull, the teeth on the euro look sharper and the k9's look to be pointier.

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2013, 08:49:00 PM »
is it weird to question if you got the right skull? that was the first thing i did with mine.

I am not sure I am understanding you statement.  Are you saying you had reason to believe it wasn't your skull when you got it back?  Size? Teeth shape? something stood out?

or are you saying you always question a Taxidermist/Skull Cleaner when you recieve something back?

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2013, 08:59:44 PM »
I tried to simulate the gum line, but these two teeth do not at all look like they are the same but I am no expert.

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Re: Expert opinion please
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2013, 09:04:27 PM »
I tried to simulate the gum line, but these two teeth do not at all look like they are the same but I am no expert.

no they do not and it doesnt take expertise to see something has changed  :dunno: :dunno: that is weird

 


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