More Hounds down due to Wolves in MT.

[Fishaholic]

next time im out ill see if i  can. i almost shot a brush picker because i thought it was a bear. they grunt when there in the woods to talk to each other so i just waited and the grunts staryyed coming closer and closer and i seen him put my sights and the "bear" and seen it was a guy and said hey mother *censored* i about shot you. He didnt see me and i scared the tar out of him.     they need to wear hunters orange when there picking. almost every year one gets shot. its sad but preventable.

[bearpaw]

Here's the bottom line, wolves were eradicated because ranchers lost too much livestock to wolves. Yes, wolves not coyotes or dogs. After greeny wolf lovers infiltrated the USFWS they illegally stold sportsmens dollars from the Pittman/Robertson fund to plant a bigger specie of wolf into the southern 48. Congress had said no wolves but they did it anyway with sportsman's money. They got away with calling it a re-introduction only because scientists scrapped the 22 or so subspecies of wolves and called them all mostly one specie.

Now that they have their wolves in the lower 48 the head of USFWS retired and now leads the Defenders of Wildlife. You can't tell me that greenies didn't infiltrate the USFWS, that's proof.

Now back to topic, these wolves shouldn't even be here for several reasons but they were illegally crammed down our throat and we are not allowed to protect ourselves or our dogs, so that is why I have a problem with wolves.

Yes a cougar or bear occasionally kills a hound, but that is different, we take that chance by pursueing them and we know that occasionally a dog(s) may suffer the consequences. Wolves were eradicated, then illegally introduced, we do not turn our hounds to hunt them and we are not able to protect our hounds. When wolves attack they often kill the whole group of hounds.

FYI - At least part of the Smackout pack is living within about 4 miles of Colville. It's as if the collared wolf followed the cattle trucks from Smackout to the rancher's house. The neighbors have also had the collared wolf right next to their house. This is only a few miles from my house where my dogs live outside. This wolf better stay away from my place. My neighbor up the road had 5 wolves trying to attack his German Shepherds in their kennel two years ago, he had to fire shots to scare them off. He said the wolves were as big or bigger than his german shepherds. I know that guy, he has lived in Colville his whole life and knows what a coyote looks like, the WDFW called me up and said it was coyotes, what a joke. WHAT A JOKE!

This time there is radio collar proof the wolf is living right near these ranchers homes and many other homes. It walked right past one rancher's house. It's just a matter of time till there is serious problems.

The truth is that the WDFW and the wolf lovers in Washington have no idea how wolves will react in a populated state like Washington which has less (unpopulated by humans) habitat than any of the other wolf states. It's too bad that lady who was out for a jog that used to live in Alaska can't tell us how wolves will react around humans. 

[cougarbart]

  it amazes me how people don't think about animals adapting to their surroundings?  it is very possible we just re-introduced a disease that will completely change our ecosystem! Like putting northern pike in a lake and then wondering why there is no trout left?  The other issue i have on this board is lets have a hunting season, thats great but as they have found in idaho and montana a hunting season does little to effect the population of these animals!  We couldn't control cougar populations without hounds and now we have a disease that may not be able to be managed without trapping and poison which i guarantee we won't get back! 

[turkeyfeather]

it amazes me how people don't think about animals adapting to their surroundings?  it is very possible we just re-introduced a disease that will completely change our ecosystem! Like putting northern pike in a lake and then wondering why there is no trout left?  The other issue i have on this board is lets have a hunting season, thats great but as they have found in idaho and montana a hunting season does little to effect the population of these animals!  We couldn't control cougar populations without hounds and now we have a disease that may not be able to be managed without trapping and poison which i guarantee we won't get back! 

I don't know if you saw the thread about the meeting in Spokane last night. The biologist said that the populations in Idaho and Montana have so far above what was intended that hunters will never be able to restore them to intended levels.

[cougarbart]

lol! ya i just seen that! but have biologistic friends in idaho that has said that for 4years! There guessing on the population is still very conservative!

[turkeyfeather]

They said last night that there is a minimum of 1800 wolves in the northern rocky mountain region. Which like you said sounds low to me.

[cougarbart]

my guess is that is roughly confirmed!lol

[KFhunter]

I'm going to build a kennel with the cyclone wire cemented right in the concrete and put a roof over it.

Not to keep my dog in, but keep the wolves out!

[bearpaw]

it amazes me how people don't think about animals adapting to their surroundings?  it is very possible we just re-introduced a disease that will completely change our ecosystem! Like putting northern pike in a lake and then wondering why there is no trout left?  The other issue i have on this board is lets have a hunting season, thats great but as they have found in idaho and montana a hunting season does little to effect the population of these animals!  We couldn't control cougar populations without hounds and now we have a disease that may not be able to be managed without trapping and poison which i guarantee we won't get back! 

I don't know if you saw the thread about the meeting in Spokane last night. The biologist said that the populations in Idaho and Montana have so far above what was intended that hunters will never be able to restore them to intended levels.

What's sad is that the wolf lovers in Washington will likely have the legislators like Rankin stop any hunting season. It's most likely the tax payer will foot the entire bill for controlling wolves after they wipe out each rancher, one after another. The big question, what happens when wolves grab a kid or jogger? I know for a fact that there are kids who live where the smackout collared wolf is hanging out just a few miles from Colville. There is also at least two women who jog or walk in that same area frequently. How would you like to be standing outside waiting for the bus in that neighborhood. 

[turkeyfeather]

it amazes me how people don't think about animals adapting to their surroundings?  it is very possible we just re-introduced a disease that will completely change our ecosystem! Like putting northern pike in a lake and then wondering why there is no trout left?  The other issue i have on this board is lets have a hunting season, thats great but as they have found in idaho and montana a hunting season does little to effect the population of these animals!  We couldn't control cougar populations without hounds and now we have a disease that may not be able to be managed without trapping and poison which i guarantee we won't get back! 

I don't know if you saw the thread about the meeting in Spokane last night. The biologist said that the populations in Idaho and Montana have so far above what was intended that hunters will never be able to restore them to intended levels.

What's sad is that the wolf lovers in Washington will likely have the legislators like Rankin stop any hunting season. It's most likely the tax payer will foot the entire bill for controlling wolves after they wipe out each rancher, one after another. The big question, what happens when wolves grab a kid or jogger? I know for a fact that there are kids who live where the smackout collared wolf is hanging out just a few miles from Colville. There is also at least two women who jog or walk in that same area frequently. How would you like to be standing outside waiting for the bus in that neighborhood. 

I wouldn't be going anywhere without my gun that's for sure.

[hardkorrhunter]

My thoughts on the wolves is we got rid of them once for a reason.

[Smossy]

Ok, are there anyone in here that actually HUNT, and love wolves? Just curious.
Seems like its all the peta people that sit behind a desk and never venture into the woods are the ones to be defending them, not the people who actually spend time in the woods and see what they can actually do, how vicious they can be, and how destructive they can be to our big game numbers.
Just my 
I think they're gorgeous animals don't get it wrong, but like the other guy said, They were probably killed off in our state for a reason.
I don't do too much research on allot of these topics in here so what advantage do we get to reintroducing these things back into washington?
And if your all for bringing them back to the state don't take this as a personal attack against you its nothing of the sort.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

My thoughts on the wolves is we got rid of them once for a reason.
[/quot.  I know this is preaching to the choir but there is a reason our forfathers killed off all the wolfs in the 1800's! They are absolutely good for nothin!!!!

[Fishaholic]

My thoughts on the wolves is we got rid of them once for a reason.
[/quot.  I know this is preaching to the choir but there is a reason our forfathers killed off all the wolfs in the 1800's! They are absolutely good for nothin!!!!

       

they are so. they make good fir rugs and hats

[hardkorrhunter]

Just like that thief that stole your hammer shoot em and walk away, walk away george walk away