WDFW Vehicle Access Pass Legislation 3/11 Update

[Bob33]

Just to vent about that - THAT IS A STUPID RULE!!!!! not your fault and not trying to scream at the messenger but holy cow that is stupid. If 2 vehicles are allowed on the pass then who cares if they are both at the same place at the same time - Yes I do realize it's another way to make more money, but it doesn't make it right or smart.

Bigtex will definitely correct me if I'm mistaken () but the pass is only valid for one vehicle at a time, not two. You get one pass but you can use it on two different vehicles. Originally, it could only be used on one vehicle. Period.

If you were to get two passes for one price you could give one to your friend, etc.

[bigtex]

Just to vent about that - THAT IS A STUPID RULE!!!!! not your fault and not trying to scream at the messenger but holy cow that is stupid. If 2 vehicles are allowed on the pass then who cares if they are both at the same place at the same time - Yes I do realize it's another way to make more money, but it doesn't make it right or smart.

Bigtex will definitely correct me if I'm mistaken () but the pass is only valid for one vehicle at a time, not two. You get one pass but you can use it on two different vehicles. Originally, it could only be used on one vehicle. Period.

If you were to get two passes for one price you could give one to your friend, etc.

One vehicle at a time, up to two vehicles per pass.

[Klyne3]

Just to vent about that - THAT IS A STUPID RULE!!!!! not your fault and not trying to scream at the messenger but holy cow that is stupid. If 2 vehicles are allowed on the pass then who cares if they are both at the same place at the same time - Yes I do realize it's another way to make more money, but it doesn't make it right or smart.

Bigtex will definitely correct me if I'm mistaken () but the pass is only valid for one vehicle at a time, not two. You get one pass but you can use it on two different vehicles. Originally, it could only be used on one vehicle. Period.

If you were to get two passes for one price you could give one to your friend, etc.

I am not asking for 2 passes I would however like to have 1 pass that would cover 2 vehicles at the same time at the same place, that are in my name. Not sure why this is such and issue i have to buy 2 DP to trailer my jeep to Elbe but only have to have one for Evan's which is covered under the NW Forest pass - all I have to do is ask for a decal

[washelkhunter]

   Gotta keep this one goin........

[huntrights]

And check out SB 5057 of which Doug is a sponsor.   Changing the law so that when a non-profit buys property with state money they cant prohibit hunting!  Like that one too.

Should we start another thread on this one to ensure it doesn't get buried?

[NoBark]

Thanks for bringing it back up.  I really don't think it is a huge issue expecially with the bigger hunting non-prof's but, there are some non-profs out there that could try this.

[Knocker of rocks]

I am not asking for 2 passes I would however like to have 1 pass that would cover 2 vehicles at the same time at the same place

Wouldn't they then take up two parking spots?  And wouldn't that be like getting parking for half price?  And wouldn't that be unfair to us who aren't high-rollers like you, and can only afford one vehicle?

[huntrights]

Thanks for bringing it back up.  I really don't think it is a huge issue expecially with the bigger hunting non-prof's but, there are some non-profs out there that could try this.

Connection with our state representatives is fast and easy.  We need to be able to fight many battles on many fronts at the same time.  I suspect that the legislation has been drafted because the abuse has already happened; we need to prevent further abuse.

Find your legislator:

http://app.leg.wa.gov/districtfinder/

[Klyne3]

I am not asking for 2 passes I would however like to have 1 pass that would cover 2 vehicles at the same time at the same place

Wouldn't they then take up two parking spots?  And wouldn't that be like getting parking for half price?  And wouldn't that be unfair to us who aren't high-rollers like you, and can only afford one vehicle?

First off where I go does not have parking spots per say just a big area for everyone to park their trucks and trailers- however I guess that you do have a point since but it's not different than have a truck and boat trailer. And I guess I should also point out that it's a ORV Park.

Second I hope the high roller comment was sarcasm. I am not throwing it in anyone's face that I have multiple vehicles. I have worked hard to have the toys that I have. Yes it is my choice to have the hobbies that I do and I have no issue paying a reasonable amount for them. I pay the fuel taxes, buy all the passes, license all of them, etc etc.. And where you only have to pay for 1 pass that covers 2 vehicles, I have to buy 2 to cover 2 vehicles.

[Knocker of rocks]

And where you only have to pay for 1 pass that covers 2 vehicles, I have to buy 2 to cover 2 vehicles.

But your wrong, I'm buying a pass for one vehicle, and your complaining that because you have two vehicles, you should somehow be entitled to park and use them both simultaneously with a single pass.  I disagree, the pass should be enforced as it is, allowing a family to use either one of their vehicles at one time, but not both at the same time.

[Klyne3]

And where you only have to pay for 1 pass that covers 2 vehicles, I have to buy 2 to cover 2 vehicles.

But your wrong, I'm buying a pass for one vehicle and your complaining that because you have two vehicles, you should somehow be entitled to park and use them both simultaneously with a single pass.  I disagree, the pass should be enforced as it is, allowing a family to use either one of their vehicles at one time, but not both at the same time.

Then we will have to agree to disagree. Because I am not wrong I have to buy 2 passes to cover two vehicles, you only have to buy one to cover 2 vehicles. I don't agree with that rule..... if it covers 2 vehicles than it should cover those two vehicles regardless if they are at the same place at the same time. I don't believe I am entitled to anything more than what I pay for.

[Special T]

So this brings up a great point... Lets say you have a dedicated wheeler/ jeep. If you only have it on the trailer do you need 2 DPs? Or is the ORV sticker cheeper?

[Klyne3]

So this brings up a great point... Lets say you have a dedicated wheeler/ jeep. If you only have it on the trailer do you need 2 DPs? Or is the ORV sticker cheeper?

If it is street legal then it must have a DP for the jeep and the truck pulling the trailer must have a DP also. You can get ORV sticker for them but you can not drive them on any roads because it is illegal and you will be pulled over/ticketed etc - Same as if you were to run a quad/dirtbike down the road. My jeep is still street legal according to the law even with how it is set up due to open wheel clauses and age and will stay that way even though I rarely use it on road

[Bob33]

And where you only have to pay for 1 pass that covers 2 vehicles, I have to buy 2 to cover 2 vehicles.

But your wrong, I'm buying a pass for one vehicle and your complaining that because you have two vehicles, you should somehow be entitled to park and use them both simultaneously with a single pass.  I disagree, the pass should be enforced as it is, allowing a family to use either one of their vehicles at one time, but not both at the same time.

Then we will have to agree to disagree. Because I am not wrong I have to buy 2 passes to cover two vehicles, you only have to buy one to cover 2 vehicles. I don't agree with that rule..... if it covers 2 vehicles than it should cover those two vehicles regardless if they are at the same place at the same time. I don't believe I am entitled to anything more than what I pay for.

This is the RCW which deals with the Discover Pass: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=79A.80.020

The language pertaining to transferability and single use is here:

(5) The discover pass must contain space for two motor vehicle license plate numbers. A discover pass is valid only for those vehicle license plate numbers written on the pass. However, the agencies may offer for sale a family discover pass that is fully transferable among vehicles and does not require the placement of a license plate number on the pass to be valid. The agencies must collectively set a price for the sale of a family discover pass that is no more than fifty dollars. A discover pass is valid only for use with one motor vehicle at any one time.

[CAMPMEAT]

So this brings up a great point... Lets say you have a dedicated wheeler/ jeep. If you only have it on the trailer do you need 2 DPs? Or is the ORV sticker cheeper?

No, you only need the Discover Pass on you tow vehicle/trailer. You need an ORV sticker to ride your ATV on certain lands. If you park you tow vehicle in a nonDiscover Pass area, you only need your up-to-date ORV sticker to ride on certain lands.

As for a jeep, unless they changed the requirements, don't they have to be licensed with a Wa State license plate, or can you now use an ORV sticker on them ? Mine jeep was street legal though.