Thanks noob. and kinda off the subject but i went down to my little honey today to check up on my beaver population ive been watching them for years they are up to ten in the pond its self but theres atleast two up stream.Anyway i went to check on them today and found three otter swimming around in there and was wondering what would be a good set to get the otter out of there.As soon as i remove the otter i will switch my focus to the beaver.Also i was wondering if the otter will target the beaver in there den as i said before there are ten all residing in the den and only three of the otter no telling how long the otter been hangin out as i hadnt been down there since late october...