collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?  (Read 13250 times)

Offline cougarbart

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 360
  • Location: eastern wash
Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« on: January 19, 2013, 07:43:06 PM »
I see all these post about the management plan and oh we need hunting,  I want to know since hunting is not controlling the population in idaho or montana and won't here, then what are we going to do?

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39177
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 07:58:15 PM »
There is no way to control them by hunting. That's why I don't get why people keep saying we need to get them delisted so they can be hunted. Delisted, sure, I agree with that. I just don't think hunting is going to have any significant effect on their numbers. It would take trapping, poisoning, and aerial shooting to keep the population in check, and we know very little of that is going to happen in this state.

It's just like coyotes. How has unlimited hunting of them kept their numbers down? (It hasn't)

Offline cougarbart

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 360
  • Location: eastern wash
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2013, 08:00:42 PM »
thats the way i feel, just cause we get em delisted and can hunt them, we still are a long way from any kind of control!  And it doesn't seem like anybody wants to bring up those other methods which makes me think that probably isn't going to be an option!

Offline turkeyfeather

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 5128
  • Location: Stevens County
  • Groups: NWTF
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2013, 08:04:51 PM »
The reality is that we won't be able to control them. Mother nature will and that's it. When they hit their carrying capacity in an area they will move on or die. After they run out of room they will die of starvation. Let's see how the wolf huggers like that one.
Be more concerned with your character than your reputation. Your character is who you actually are while your reputation is merely who others think you are.

Offline cougarbart

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 360
  • Location: eastern wash
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2013, 08:07:08 PM »
so all deer and elk hunting will be done by 2020, except in wheat counties?

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39177
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2013, 08:19:54 PM »
so all deer and elk hunting will be done by 2020, except in wheat counties?

No, they're not going to kill ALL the deer and elk. Look at Idaho and Montana, they're still hunting deer and elk in those states, along with the wolves. But of course, they have a lot more habitat, whereas we have fragmented habitat with little to no winter range in certain areas. I'm wondering how well the elk will do around the feeding stations once the wolves get established in those areas. I could definitely see this state going to permit only hunting for deer and elk, if wolves become abundant.

Offline waterdoctor

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 44
  • Location: The Wedge
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2013, 08:24:33 PM »
Once the wolves start coming closer to our dogs then we will see parvo and distemper start taking out some of them.  Heart worms will reduce their life span and mange will result in the ones getting it kicking due to exposure in the winter.   People that live out like I do will start getting really big tough dogs, not one but two or three. 

It is not a very good hand we have been dealt but our great grandfathers did O.K.

Offline ICEMAN

  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 15575
  • Location: Olympia
  • The opinionated one... Y.A.R. Exec. Staff
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2013, 08:30:00 PM »
Once the wolves start coming closer to our dogs then we will see parvo and distemper start taking out some of them.  Heart worms will reduce their life span and mange will result in the ones getting it kicking due to exposure in the winter.   People that live out like I do will start getting really big tough dogs, not one but two or three. 

It is not a very good hand we have been dealt but our great grandfathers did O.K.

Your great grandfather probably poisoned wolves.....
molṑn labé

A Knuckle Draggin Neanderthal Meat Head

Kill your television....do it now.....

Don't make me hurt you.

“I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.”  John Wayne

Offline cougarbart

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 360
  • Location: eastern wash
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2013, 08:41:03 PM »
good luck with that tough dog thing! They won't wipe the ungulates out but why have any hunting if the population is so low? 

Offline Mudman

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2012
  • Posts: 7347
  • Location: Wetside rock garden.
  • Get R Done.
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2013, 08:45:12 PM »
We must learn from our Grandfathers.  Poison.
MAGA!  Again..

Offline IBspoiled

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 813
  • Location: Castle Rock
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2013, 08:47:47 PM »
good luck with that tough dog thing! They won't wipe the ungulates out but why have any hunting if the population is so low? 
   With no reason to hunt theres no reason to own guns either :bash:

Offline cougarbart

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 360
  • Location: eastern wash
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2013, 08:48:35 PM »
is it feasible to poison with how populated some of these packs are in?  smackout pass pack has houses both in metaline side and deep cr. side!  huckleberry has all kinds of houses throughout that unit, strawberry has aeneas valley right there? 


hunting should have no bearing on gun ownership! different subject!

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39177
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2013, 08:49:11 PM »
good luck with that tough dog thing! They won't wipe the ungulates out but why have any hunting if the population is so low? 
   With no reason to hunt theres no reason to own guns either :bash:

There will always be something to hunt- wolves and coyotes if nothing else.   :tup:

Offline bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39177
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2013, 08:50:03 PM »
is it feasible to poison with how populated some of these packs are in?  smackout pass pack has houses both in metaline side and deep cr. side!  huckleberry has all kinds of houses throughout that unit, strawberry has aeneas valley right there?

You can bet poisoning of wolves will not be allowed. No way.

Offline splitshot

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 2054
Re: Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2013, 08:53:21 PM »
i know people who own guns and dont hunt and some of them dont even shoot.  mike w

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

New York deer by Bearhunter308
[Today at 10:14:19 PM]


Anybody breeding meat rabbit? by jackelope
[Today at 10:02:50 PM]


DIY Ucluelet trip by metlhead
[Today at 09:40:00 PM]


Survey in ? by metlhead
[Today at 09:35:57 PM]


Alaska Fishing Guide and Lodge Recommendations by Tbar
[Today at 09:31:49 PM]


Colorado Results by cem3434
[Today at 08:35:51 PM]


NEED ADVICE: LATE after JUNE 15th IDAHO BEAR by Sliverslinger
[Today at 08:31:23 PM]


Resetting dash warning lights by Sandberm
[Today at 08:13:27 PM]


Please Report Problems & Bugs Here by Mossy
[Today at 06:17:02 PM]


What's flatbed pickup life like? by Special T
[Today at 05:52:28 PM]


Oregon spring bear by Fidelk
[Today at 04:58:27 PM]


Idaho General Season Going to Draw for Nonresidents by idahohuntr
[Today at 01:51:40 PM]


Seekins PH2 & Element sale by BigJs Outdoor Store
[Today at 12:40:26 PM]


Kokanee Fishing Tournament!! 🎣 June 13-14, Joseph OR by WRKG4GD
[Today at 11:42:02 AM]


wings wings and more wings! by birddogdad
[Today at 11:00:11 AM]


Jim Horn's elk calling, instructional audio CD's. by WapitiTalk1
[Today at 09:46:03 AM]


Wyoming elk who's in? by link
[Today at 07:00:33 AM]


CVA Optima V2 durasight rail mod by craigapphunt
[Today at 05:56:00 AM]


Last year putting in… by wa.hunter
[Yesterday at 11:02:00 PM]


HUNTNNW 2025 trail cam thread and photos by huntnnw
[Yesterday at 10:34:36 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal