Realistic ways we are going to control wolves?

[cougarbart]

I see all these post about the management plan and oh we need hunting,  I want to know since hunting is not controlling the population in idaho or montana and won't here, then what are we going to do?

[bobcat]

There is no way to control them by hunting. That's why I don't get why people keep saying we need to get them delisted so they can be hunted. Delisted, sure, I agree with that. I just don't think hunting is going to have any significant effect on their numbers. It would take trapping, poisoning, and aerial shooting to keep the population in check, and we know very little of that is going to happen in this state.

It's just like coyotes. How has unlimited hunting of them kept their numbers down? (It hasn't)

[cougarbart]

thats the way i feel, just cause we get em delisted and can hunt them, we still are a long way from any kind of control!  And it doesn't seem like anybody wants to bring up those other methods which makes me think that probably isn't going to be an option!

[turkeyfeather]

The reality is that we won't be able to control them. Mother nature will and that's it. When they hit their carrying capacity in an area they will move on or die. After they run out of room they will die of starvation. Let's see how the wolf huggers like that one.

[cougarbart]

so all deer and elk hunting will be done by 2020, except in wheat counties?

[bobcat]

so all deer and elk hunting will be done by 2020, except in wheat counties?

No, they're not going to kill ALL the deer and elk. Look at Idaho and Montana, they're still hunting deer and elk in those states, along with the wolves. But of course, they have a lot more habitat, whereas we have fragmented habitat with little to no winter range in certain areas. I'm wondering how well the elk will do around the feeding stations once the wolves get established in those areas. I could definitely see this state going to permit only hunting for deer and elk, if wolves become abundant.

[waterdoctor]

Once the wolves start coming closer to our dogs then we will see parvo and distemper start taking out some of them.  Heart worms will reduce their life span and mange will result in the ones getting it kicking due to exposure in the winter.   People that live out like I do will start getting really big tough dogs, not one but two or three. 

It is not a very good hand we have been dealt but our great grandfathers did O.K.

[ICEMAN]

Once the wolves start coming closer to our dogs then we will see parvo and distemper start taking out some of them.  Heart worms will reduce their life span and mange will result in the ones getting it kicking due to exposure in the winter.   People that live out like I do will start getting really big tough dogs, not one but two or three. 

It is not a very good hand we have been dealt but our great grandfathers did O.K.

Your great grandfather probably poisoned wolves.....

[cougarbart]

good luck with that tough dog thing! They won't wipe the ungulates out but why have any hunting if the population is so low? 

[Mudman]

We must learn from our Grandfathers.  Poison.

[IBspoiled]

good luck with that tough dog thing! They won't wipe the ungulates out but why have any hunting if the population is so low? 

   With no reason to hunt theres no reason to own guns either

[cougarbart]

is it feasible to poison with how populated some of these packs are in?  smackout pass pack has houses both in metaline side and deep cr. side!  huckleberry has all kinds of houses throughout that unit, strawberry has aeneas valley right there? 


hunting should have no bearing on gun ownership! different subject!

[bobcat]

good luck with that tough dog thing! They won't wipe the ungulates out but why have any hunting if the population is so low? 

   With no reason to hunt theres no reason to own guns either

There will always be something to hunt- wolves and coyotes if nothing else.   

[bobcat]

is it feasible to poison with how populated some of these packs are in?  smackout pass pack has houses both in metaline side and deep cr. side!  huckleberry has all kinds of houses throughout that unit, strawberry has aeneas valley right there?

You can bet poisoning of wolves will not be allowed. No way.

[splitshot]

i know people who own guns and dont hunt and some of them dont even shoot.  mike w