Bill 4 Discounted Discover Pass for Fish & Hunt Licenses 3/11 Significant Update

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Wait til they start charging all the clam diggers $30 to park on the beach. This is the same thing.

[Special T]

They should require it! its state land... Either parks, DNR or....

[bigtex]

Wait til they start charging all the clam diggers $30 to park on the beach. This is the same thing.

The only reason they don't is because while the coastal beaches are owned by State Parks, it is not considered a State Park, but rather the Seashore Conservation Area. The Discover Pass bill requires the pass in State Parks, not State Park lands.

Had the legislation required the Discover Pass on State Park LANDS (similar to WDFW and DNR lands) the Pass would be required.

[bigtex]

They should require it! its state land... Either parks, DNR or....

I agree. The coast is probably the most heavily used state land in the state...and it's the only area not required to have the pass. 

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Wait til they start charging all the clam diggers $30 to park on the beach. This is the same thing.

The only reason they don't is because while the coastal beaches are owned by State Parks, it is not considered a State Park, but rather the Seashore Conservation Area. The Discover Pass bill requires the pass in State Parks, not State Park lands.

Had the legislation required the Discover Pass on State Park LANDS (similar to WDFW and DNR lands) the Pass would be required.

As far as I'm concerned they should spread the pain around. But that's why they didn't include State Parks owned lands. You can bet there was figuring going on. They figured there would be significant political blow back from requiring it on the beaches where people go to recreate. Way more people use the beaches than any other state land. Hunters are a small minority who they think have unlimited deep pockets. So they won't get stung in the voting booth like they would for requiring the pass on the beaches.

The ironic part is, they are doing this to fund State Parks and State Parks owns the beaches so what better source of revenue? But they include DNR land that is undeveloped and has nothing to do with State Parks.

[lokidog]

Wait til they start charging all the clam diggers $30 to park on the beach. This is the same thing.

The only reason they don't is because while the coastal beaches are owned by State Parks, it is not considered a State Park, but rather the Seashore Conservation Area. The Discover Pass bill requires the pass in State Parks, not State Park lands.

Had the legislation required the Discover Pass on State Park LANDS (similar to WDFW and DNR lands) the Pass would be required.

As far as I'm concerned they should spread the pain around. But that's why they didn't include State Parks owned lands. You can bet there was figuring going on. They figured there would be significant political blow back from requiring it on the beaches where people go to recreate. Way more people use the beaches than any other state land. Hunters are a small minority who they think have unlimited deep pockets. So they won't get stung in the voting booth like they would for requiring the pass on the beaches.

The ironic part is, they are doing this to fund State Parks and State Parks owns the beaches so what better source of revenue? But they include DNR land that is undeveloped and has nothing to do with State Parks.

100% 

[bigtex]

Wait til they start charging all the clam diggers $30 to park on the beach. This is the same thing.

The only reason they don't is because while the coastal beaches are owned by State Parks, it is not considered a State Park, but rather the Seashore Conservation Area. The Discover Pass bill requires the pass in State Parks, not State Park lands.

Had the legislation required the Discover Pass on State Park LANDS (similar to WDFW and DNR lands) the Pass would be required.

As far as I'm concerned they should spread the pain around. But that's why they didn't include State Parks owned lands. You can bet there was figuring going on. They figured there would be significant political blow back from requiring it on the beaches where people go to recreate. Way more people use the beaches than any other state land. Hunters are a small minority who they think have unlimited deep pockets. So they won't get stung in the voting booth like they would for requiring the pass on the beaches.

The ironic part is, they are doing this to fund State Parks and State Parks owns the beaches so what better source of revenue? But they include DNR land that is undeveloped and has nothing to do with State Parks.

100% 

[xd2005]

Do the funds go towards state parks or state park lands?

[bigtex]

Do the funds go towards state parks or state park lands?

The agencies in general

[Pinetar]

BigTex,

Last year if you were staying at a state campground (like Banks Lake) you didn't have to buy the discovery pass since you were paying for the campgrounds. Is this still the same or do you now have to also buy the DP?

[bigtex]

BigTex,

Last year if you were staying at a state campground (like Banks Lake) you didn't have to buy the discovery pass since you were paying for the campgrounds. Is this still the same or do you now have to also buy the DP?

No change

[Pinetar]

Thanks Big Tex, I was hoping this wouln't change