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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2013, 11:12:38 PM »
So what does that mean? If state land is closed due to fire danger the Indians can still hunt it? Does it mean if it's gated they will be given keys? Probably so. Why can't they walk in like everyone else?

If the land is closed in the winter to prevent disturbance of deer and elk on their winter range, the Indians can still drive in and slaughter them?

Why am I not surprised?    :bash:

The land access legislation is simply DNR lands, not other state or federal lands. Yes, given keys. You bring up a very good question in regards to fire danger.

Personally, there are a lot of "ifs" on both pieces of legislation. However what scares me is the fact that 11 representatives are sponsoring this legislation.

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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2013, 11:16:45 PM »

X1000 

Bigtex, I agree with you absolutely, 100% completely on this one!!

The 2 bills are sponsored by the same 11 Democrat reps.

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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2013, 11:45:18 PM »
The land access legislation is simply DNR lands, not other state or federal lands. Yes, given keys. You bring up a very good question in regards to fire danger.

I didn't see where it said only DNR lands. Doesn't it just say "state lands?" Which would include WDFW? Meaning the Colockum, Quilomene, LT Murray, Wenas, Oak Creek, Chelan Butte, etc.
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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2013, 11:50:54 PM »
The land access legislation is simply DNR lands, not other state or federal lands. Yes, given keys. You bring up a very good question in regards to fire danger.

I didn't see where it said only DNR lands. Doesn't it just say "state lands?" Which would include WDFW? Meaning the Colockum, Quilomene, LT Murray, Wenas, Oak Creek, Chelan Buttle, etc.
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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2013, 11:53:00 PM »
I will say though that I suspect the DNR is somewhat responsible for the existence of these bills.   :bash:

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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2013, 12:35:35 AM »
Could be
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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2013, 01:24:10 AM »
if you lose a war why should you get extra rights just horse cac :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:a :bash:

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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2013, 03:40:34 AM »
This is exactly why we, as sportsmen, need to make our voices heard.  Everyone should be taking time to comment on these bills and contacting your representatives, I just did so.  The one thing everyone needs to remember is that a short succinct message stating that you oppose these bills is better than a long flaming rant.  Remember to keep it civil or it will not have the impact we desire.
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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2013, 04:36:18 AM »
I'd almost guess this INCLUDES THE FEEDLOT.   It could be opened ended enough to be interpreted that way. 

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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2013, 06:48:26 AM »
So what does that mean? If state land is closed due to fire danger the Indians can still hunt it? Does it mean if it's gated they will be given keys? Probably so. Why can't they walk in like everyone else?

If the land is closed in the winter to prevent disturbance of deer and elk on their winter range, the Indians can still drive in and slaughter them?

Why am I not surprised?    :bash:

The land access legislation is simply DNR lands, not other state or federal lands. Yes, given keys. You bring up a very good question in regards to fire danger.

Personally, there are a lot of "ifs" on both pieces of legislation. However what scares me is the fact that 11 representatives are sponsoring this legislation.

I would be willing to bet the tribes are big contributors to all these reps campaigns.  :twocents:

Which committee is this in? Someone should post an easy "copy and paste email list" so people can easily send messages to the reps in that committee.

We have all the reps listed in this topic with an email "copy and paste" list of all reps: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,31831.0.html
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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2013, 07:38:51 AM »
The land access legislation is simply DNR lands, not other state or federal lands. Yes, given keys. You bring up a very good question in regards to fire danger.

I didn't see where it said only DNR lands. Doesn't it just say "state lands?" Which would include WDFW? Meaning the Colockum, Quilomene, LT Murray, Wenas, Oak Creek, Chelan Butte, etc.

It reads “the department” which is defined in chapter 79 as the DNR

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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2013, 07:50:28 AM »
Tribes have BIG $ to spread around. I talked to one of our Country commissioners on this subject a couple of years ago. He was in DC and saw the local Chief there and asked him what he was doing. He pulled out his check book and showed him the carbon copes of all the checks he had been writing. The chief said he had better get with the program instead of fighting the tribes so much.    There is a HUGE conflict of interest  with the tribes pushing certain agendas... 

Just like the salmon issue here on the west side, I think this is much bigger than road access for tribal  members. I find it hard to believe that these bills would not legal.

Elk being here originally is a non issue to me. The Col-ville have an awesome elk program in the hells canyon region on their Rez.
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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2013, 07:58:51 AM »
14 sponsors – 1 republican in the group – 2 are from Spokane and the rest are from the urban areas from Marysville to Olympia.  I doubt if any of them have ever set foot on the public lands they are opening up.
 


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Re: Tribal hunting bills introduced
« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2013, 08:21:52 AM »

It reads “the department” which is defined in chapter 79 as the DNR

Thanks for clarifying that.

I'm glad to know that before I start writing letters.

 


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