Tribal hunting bills introduced

[bearpaw]

One of the bill sponsors is Dunshee, seems I remember that his biggest campaign contributor was the tribes.

[scotty1969]

if we could keep everyone from going to the casinos all the time they wouldnt have so much money.boycott the casinos then we can get a fair shake again.

[Practical Approach]

Correct if i am wrong,or am i?

 It has always been my understanding that there were never any elk in the Yakima area when the treaties were signed and that they were in fact brought here in rail cars from out of state.
 IF that is so then how can they claim rights to --harvest-- them at all, at the feeding stations no less as we all know?

 Some people that i know do say that they were here at that time but killed off,others such as myself am not sure of that. The Olympic herd yes i know that but the Yakima herd is not clear to me.
 Thanks in advance for some education to me on this.Sorry if this has been brought up before. I really would like to know the story.
 I know i havent said anything about the gates but i let you guess where i stand on that one!       

Historic Distribution
The Yakima Elk Herd is a reintroduced herd resulting from an initial transplant of 50 Rocky
Mountain elk (Cervus elaphus nelsoni) from Gardiner, Montana in January 1913 and an
additional 6 elk from Montana purchased from Manitou Park in Spokane, Washington in 1913.
These animals were released on the Stevens Ranch on the Naches River (Pautzke et al.1939).
They noted that, “There were no elk native to Yakima County at the time of these plantings, nor
is there definite evidence that elk ever occupied that area in recent times.” Based on recent
archeological records from the Columbia Basin the evidence suggests that elk were present and
utilized by the early inhabitants (Dixon et al. 1996 and McCorquodale 1985). Elk were possibly
extirpated from the region by the late 1880's (McCorquodale 1985).

[BOWHUNTER45]

 @ Scotty ....      yeah but that will not happen ... I just can not stand the thought of them wanting to keep taking more and more from us ...Again we all live on earth and not one of us should have something over the other when it comes to public land !

[huntnphool]

@ Scotty ....      yeah but that will not happen ... I just can not stand the thought of them wanting to keep taking more and more from us ...Again we all live on earth and not one of us should have something over the other when it comes to public land !

Correct, that will never happen, but what you could do that would severely impact the tribes would be to legalize gambling.

[scotty1969]

@ Scotty ....      yeah but that will not happen ... I just can not stand the thought of them wanting to keep taking more and more from us ...Again we all live on earth and not one of us should have something over the other when it comes to public land !

Correct, that will never happen, but what you could do that would severely impact the tribes would be to legalize gambling.

i so agree with this,but our gov.is to willing to give to them and not us for there own benefits.the casinos have contributed more to the elections of these indiduals with our money than we ever could to get the right ones elected.by the way for anyone that wants or needs to know i am 3/4 native american from back east...............

[BOWHUNTER45]

Ya know I have been thinking about this whole deal  Maybe what should happen is let the tribes reclaim their land ...Yeah that's right ... I honestly think if we would give it back to them then we may have a much better chance or managing it ... We would be able to continue logging - planting new trees to insure we have healthy trees growing at all times ..We would illuminate the tree huggers from taking over everything ...We will have a better chance of of bringing back hound hunting ...we would have a better chance at managing our salmon runs ....we would have a better chance at managing deer & elk herds and we would totally take it out of the hands of those who do not have a clue about managing anything !   I seriously think it would benefit us all !

[uplandhunter870]

Ya know I have been thinking about this whole deal  Maybe what should happen is let the tribes reclaim their land ...Yeah that's right ... I honestly think if we would give it back to them then we may have a much better chance or managing it ... We would be able to continue logging - planting new trees to insure we have healthy trees growing at all times ..We would illuminate the tree huggers from taking over everything ...We will have a better chance of of bringing back hound hunting ...we would have a better chance at managing our salmon runs ....we would have a better chance at managing deer & elk herds and we would totally take it out of the hands of those who do not have a clue about managing anything !   I seriously think it would benefit us all !

this is why someone needs to invent a sarcasm font, because i sincerely hope you are joking and the sarcasm just isnt slapping me in the face

if not joking then--- youve got to be joking right?

[BOWHUNTER45]

No I am not joking ... think about it ...the only thing on the mind of Washington is shutting everything down ... I heard this straight up from a warden ,,,yeah no one may believe that but whoever believes what I say anyways   I believe we would be much better off .... I know the reason there are tags in my area ....and it sure is not from the dept ...thank the tribes !!!  So that being said I think thats what we need to do 

[gaddy]

well someone better spank your ass & hard. HARD. dont GIVE em anything.

[uplandhunter870]

well BH45 i have no doubts that the state is slowly working towards a wildlife viewing only state. but with the general angst ive experienced from natives towards non natives im not sure that simply handing everything over to native regulation is much better of an option. i may be wrong here but the general taste left in my mouth from the native attitude is not a good one and i realize im generalizing here but i have my reasons to be a bit sheepish

[deerhuntr4885]

No I am not joking ... think about it ...the only thing on the mind of Washington is shutting everything down ... I heard this straight up from a warden ,,,yeah no one may believe that but whoever believes what I say anyways   I believe we would be much better off .... I know the reason there are tags in my area ....and it sure is not from the dept ...thank the tribes !!!  So that being said I think thats what we need to do 

You are pretty naive at best to believe this. Who says the tribes would allow ANY non tribal hunters?  Have you ever been on the Yakima Rez?  They have so little game. That is why they keep destroying the other units.  They have almost completely wiped out their own deer and elk herds. Then the LT, then Quillomene, now Entiat. 

[JimmyHoffa]

He does make a good point about tribal management.  Some of the best fishing is on the rez rivers that are managed for sport angling.  Seems to be better than the rivers the state manages.  Another coastal tribe does a good job with bear opportunity.  Out of state tribes manage well for elk and deer.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Well I guess it is different in each area of the state ...I know where I live they have done alot and I know a couple of them ..All I give them sheet all the time but for the most part I get along with them just fine .. I can tell you 2 things that have happened in Skagit Co that the tribes had a big part in getting done .. the 1st being the Elk Tags we can now apply for ...without the tribes voting on this , this would not be going on ! Second is the sockeye run in the Skagit ..Never has been one for as long as I have been here and now for the 1st time we got to load the freezer  I believe they are working to please both sides .....at least in Skagit Co...If you do not agree on what I have said then here is option # 2.....   Maybe since they have all this money to spend they can buy out the timber companies       That sounds better yet to me and then we could help them come up with a better way to manage elk herds in Washington ...I think we have a much better chance dealing with the tribes rather than dealing with Olympia and all their college regulation ......yeah ...that's what they should do !!!  

[bigtex]

The 2 bills are sponsored by the same 11 Democrat reps.

IF THERE IS ANY HUNTING LEGISLATION THAT NEEDS YOUR OPPOSITION THIS YEAR THIS IS IT!