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Re: new bows
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2013, 10:21:44 PM »
LOVE my Bowtech! :tup:  :twocents:

Ditto and I'm on my 3rd with never any limb (or any other) problems

That said, I don't bad mouth other brands. Many, many quality bows out there these days
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Re: new bows
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2013, 12:04:21 AM »
LOVE my Bowtech! :tup:  :twocents:

Ditto and I'm on my 3rd with never any limb (or any other) problems

That said, I don't bad mouth other brands. Many, many quality bows out there these days
Yup, sorry.  I threw mine away after the third set of limbs and it never did paper tune and warranty told me I had to use a whisker bisquit because that is what its designed for.  No credit no replacement just a polite go to H--!!!  Sorry I will bad mouth that and I do have proof.  Google Tomkats and you will learn what I speak of.
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Re: new bows
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2013, 02:10:55 AM »
When did bowtech NOT have limb issues?

About every day since Savage took them over.  Best thing they ever did was decide saving a buck on limbs was not worth it.  Bowtech put a lot of money and effort into the design of the new laminated limbs.  Even their machined limbs are a different animal than they used to be.

Invasion was replaced by the new Experience.  It's a little heavier and a few fps slower than the Invasion, but engineered with more proven riser geometry.  Feels better at the shot too.  Much better than changing the name and the paint job, adding a few more holes and calling it a new bow like so many others have done.

Bowtech still does have some of the old customer-no-service people left over.  And that's a shame.  But if you are judging Bowtech by the days of the Tomkat (2006) you might as well complain about Hyundai because you get a lemon Isuzu.  It would make about as much sense.  It's just not the same bow or company these days.
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Re: new bows
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2013, 04:55:25 AM »
The Invasion was IMHO the perfect bow. It met all my criteria that must he met for me to replace my current bow.  Musts: weigh less than 4.0lbs. Be smooth as ice, and feel dead in the hand, super quiet. Shoulds: 7" BH 32-35" ATA, and an IBO of at least 340fps.

My current bow meets all of this criteria but shoots only 321fps and since I have midget arms that equates to a truest velocity of 265fps with a 424grain arrow. No complaints though. I love my Alpha Max 32
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Re: new bows
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2013, 02:16:07 PM »
I have been reading up on the Carbon Element with RKT cams. I need to stop doing that of I might buy one. Ebay has some pretty good prices.  :yike:  Must stay strong, must stay strong.
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Re: new bows
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2013, 02:28:34 PM »
Nah I love my 2009 Hoyt AM32 too much.  :tup:
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Re: new bows
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2013, 02:30:21 PM »
You know you want one.

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Re: new bows
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2013, 04:20:26 PM »
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Re: new bows
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2013, 04:49:32 PM »
My current bow meets all of this criteria but shoots only 321fps and since I have midget arms that equates to a truest velocity of 265fps with a 424grain arrow. No complaints though. I love my Alpha Max 32

The greatest season of my life was when I shot a Golden Eagle at 205 fps.  If you have a rangefinder speed matters very little.  Confidence in your equipment means far more!

I was disappointed to see the new Experience increase weight over the Invasion.  Though I felt the improvement in balance made it a wash.  My arm seems to like it better even though it's a good four ounces heavier.
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Re: new bows
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2013, 04:56:27 PM »
When did bowtech NOT have limb issues?

About every day since Savage took them over.  Best thing they ever did was decide saving a buck on limbs was not worth it.  Bowtech put a lot of money and effort into the design of the new laminated limbs.  Even their machined limbs are a different animal than they used to be.

Invasion was replaced by the new Experience.  It's a little heavier and a few fps slower than the Invasion, but engineered with more proven riser geometry.  Feels better at the shot too.  Much better than changing the name and the paint job, adding a few more holes and calling it a new bow like so many others have done.

Bowtech still does have some of the old customer-no-service people left over.  And that's a shame.  But if you are judging Bowtech by the days of the Tomkat (2006) you might as well complain about Hyundai because you get a lemon Isuzu.  It would make about as much sense.  It's just not the same bow or company these days.
I know you are probably right.  Im just sore about it.  500$ is lot of money and warranty manager made it personal with his rudeness.  I know they make some good bows today.  I just wont support them again regardless.  I hope they have better service now.
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Re: new bows
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2013, 05:17:21 PM »
My current bow meets all of this criteria but shoots only 321fps and since I have midget arms that equates to a truest velocity of 265fps with a 424grain arrow. No complaints though. I love my Alpha Max 32

The greatest season of my life was when I shot a Golden Eagle at 205 fps.  If you have a rangefinder speed matters very little.  Confidence in your equipment means far more!

I was disappointed to see the new Experience increase weight over the Invasion.  Though I felt the improvement in balance made it a wash.  My arm seems to like it better even though it's a good four ounces heavier.

Yeah I agree. I love my Alpha Max way to much to give it up. Plus I figured out a way to bump up my speed by about 12-15fps, and I'm not talking about using a lighter arrow.
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Re: new bows
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2013, 05:20:40 PM »
I know you are probably right.  Im just sore about it.  I just wont support them again regardless.

I understand!  The same reason I only dated one redhead.  Just can't trust them. :chuckle:

Makes no sense, but I felt better avoiding them anyhow.
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Re: new bows
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2013, 05:31:37 PM »
little off topic but I dated 3 Redheads and man I miss them ..thought I would end up with one but got stuck with a blond  :dunno: :chuckle: I would die to see those Redhead days again  :drool: :yeah:

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Re: new bows
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2013, 05:38:11 PM »

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 Plus I figured out a way to bump up my speed by about 12-15fps, and I'm not talking about using a lighter arrow.
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Please explain! I could always use some extra fps with my set up.

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Re: new bows
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2013, 08:18:58 PM »
Long story short. Getting rid of my XTR cams that come on my 2009 Hoyt Alpha Max and replacing them with 2013 RKT cams. Guys are taking this bow from an IBO of 321 to 335. Just by swapping cams.
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