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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2013, 11:18:15 AM »
How do you know it was multi agency?
Does they WDFW have a SWAT team?

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2013, 11:18:45 AM »
I was going to let you sit on it for awhile  :dunno: This maybe the best thing that could of happened  :dunno: All over a picture of my SON posting a picture on facebook  :o :rolleyes: He was holding a Native steelhead out of the water  :bdid: According to them you can not take a Native fish out of the water if it is closed for keeping them ...no matter if you turn it loose or not ..You have to either cut your line or keep the fish in the water at all times without handling it ...Thats fine since not everyone knows how to handle a fish ..But wetting yours hands is how I handle a fish I want to cut loose ...I can understand what they are saying ...They came because they thought that Teddy was clubbing fish in the head !!! They searched the freezers to find many fish  :dunno: 8) BUT NO STEELHEAD !!! They were doing their job and thats fine ...After a 2 hour deal I hope we settled our differences and this will be the end of it ...I told them how I felt and they done the same ...they need to understand where I am coming from too ! I buy every tag this state has to offer and I am not sitting home and doing nothen when I pay for what I do ...that is what it is all about ...I am tired of all the laws they come up with and I have a right to beach about what I believe in ... I am not braking the law like they may think I am ... and now they seen what is in my house ...lots of fish and dead animals that are legally taken and reported I hope they can leave me alone now ...and I will do the same !!

Sounds to me like you got a good lesson.  That law was put in place because people don't know how to handle fish and don't do it responsibly.  Many people who claim to know how to handle fish still hold them out of the water too long.  Just yesterday someone posted a "funny" comment about kicking pinks back into the water.  While there are plenty of pinks around, it still isn't proper fish handling, still is harmful to the fish, and still shouldn't be done.  I've never understood why hunters feel it is OK to mistreat fish but not OK to mistreat animals?  And, I've seen plenty of steelhead mishandled and even some kicked back down the gravel bar to be released "unharmed."  Personally, I hope you got a ticket and learned your lesson (which it doesn't sound like occurred on either count).
WELL ...I appreciate your concerns ..and I will not comment on your comment because you know what I am thinking  :hello:

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2013, 11:20:59 AM »
There's always one!  I guess it just bugs me when people get caught doing something illegal then bitch on the interwebz like they are the victim when they get caught.  I guess we should all feel bad for him?
you do not need to feel sorry for anyone !!!! If you want to think holding a fish out of water is illegal then we have a problem ...you can message me if you like because this may get ugly !


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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2013, 11:22:00 AM »
How do you know it was multi agency?
Does they WDFW have a SWAT team?

Sure it was really a SWAT team?
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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2013, 11:24:22 AM »
How do you know it was multi agency?
it was !!!! 3 wardens and 2 police officers !

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2013, 11:24:29 AM »
Okay...I'll bite so to speak. If the regulations say holding a native out of water is illegal how would one think anything other than "yes, I think holding a native out of water is illegal"?

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2013, 11:28:18 AM »
So seriously Bowhunter, do you really think they showed up just because of this pic or might it have something to do with you practicing taxidermy etc.   Not to put you on the spot or anything but it has been my experience with these type of threads that alot of information is left out and law enforcement is painted in a real ugly way.  I am glad everything turned out good.   

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2013, 11:29:29 AM »
:tup:

Hope you had a talk with the boy about too much stuff on Facebook though.   :chuckle:
Facebook is the dumbest thing ever. I dont believe in that stalker website.
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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2013, 11:30:09 AM »
is it illegal to practice taxidermy not licenced?  I mean as a hobby.  not selling things or anything

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2013, 11:30:50 AM »
How do you know it was multi agency?
it was !!!! 3 wardens and 2 police officers !

....does not a SWAT team make.
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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2013, 11:33:30 AM »
 you do not need to feel sorry for anyone !!!! If you want to think holding a fish out of water is illegal then we have a problem ...you can message me if you like because this may get ugly !
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I'd like to touch on this a bit more. So....I read the regs and they say it is illegal to hold a native out of the water. I say okay....this is a rule....it is published and enforcable. Now...because I agree that this rule exists I would have a problem with you?

Do you see how that statment shows your intent to disregard laws/rules you disagree with? If so, like I and others have mentioned, I believe you are making your own problems. If you are teaching these boys to do the same they will continue to have problems with the local authority as well.

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2013, 11:35:27 AM »
is it illegal to practice taxidermy not licenced?  I mean as a hobby.  not selling things or anything
As long you are not selling it you are ok.   Encompassed in that is doing it for friends (taking a 100 to cover costs or buy beer).  That sort of thing.   Better be careful with migratory stuff and records too these days.  I think you can get into trouble really fast.

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2013, 11:40:33 AM »
My kids were born with a pole in their hands and Teddy loves to fish ..But he knows he is not to brake the law...I do not teach my kids to brake the law ..I CAN NOT BABY SIT THEM EVERY MINUTE OF THE DAY...Kids are kids ..we all were kids at one time and if you never done nothen wrong in your life then good for you ...Teddy learned a lesson over this ...if these kids could be fishing legally they would not be doing other things to get them in trouble ..unfortunately he was doing something he loves but still was doing something illegal by holding a fish out of water  :bash: :bash: they thought he was killing them and thats why they showed up ...they took nothen ...they left on a good note ..well at least they said so but who knows until I hear back ..I agree I get alittle fired up but I am who I am ...and I am not going to hide in a corner and  :'(    If I was braking the law do you think I would share my issues ... Do not think So ! We all need to be aware of what is going on with our rights to hunt and fish and we should all learn from each other what is right and wrong ...I try to help people on this site as much as I can and I will continue to do ...another thing ...there was 4 or 5 nets out one day they were fishing ...its o.k to net Native steelhead but its illegal for a kid to take a picture of a fish he caught by holding it out of the water ....this is O.K ...By law yes ..but I do not have to agree with it !

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2013, 11:41:22 AM »
you do not need to feel sorry for anyone !!!! If you want to think holding a fish out of water is illegal then we have a problem ...you can message me if you like because this may get ugly !


I'd like to touch on this a bit more. So....I read the regs and they say it is illegal to hold a native out of the water. I say okay....this is a rule....it is published and enforcable. Now...because I agree that this rule exists I would have a problem with you?

Do you see how that statment shows your intent to disregard laws/rules you disagree with? If so, like I and others have mentioned, I believe you are making your own problems. If you are teaching these boys to do the same they will continue to have problems with the local authority as well.
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Just curious, do you really think that taking a picture of a fish before releasing it rises to the level of having his home invaded and gone through because of it? How many people have done this, maybe I am missing the severity of that pic. I realize that his son was wrong for doing it, but to invade his home because his son took a picture of a fish that he caught and released? I truly am struggling with this one.

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Re: REMEMBER MY FISHING THREAD ....????????????
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2013, 11:44:15 AM »
How do you know it was multi agency?
Does they WDFW have a SWAT team?

No. They use other agencies.  When the raided my neighbors barn to take a peek at his two legally taken and tagged elk they brought two state patrol cars, one sheriff's and fish and feathers with the lights going.  Allot of man power for nothing. Wish I had a state job!!

I had fish and feathers come over on a similar deal last spring. They went through the freezers looking for a Nat. found nothing. My wife told them on the way out door that I had buried it in the garden! Next thing I know they have crime seine tape around the vegi garden and a bit latter a truck load of uniforms show up with shovels. After they spent all day digging up the vegi garden I thanked them and put the rototiller back in the barn!
Gotta love that women!

 


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