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Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« on: February 09, 2013, 11:32:20 PM »
Today I picked up a PSE Brute X. I love it, feels great and shoots easy. This is my first bow and i plan to hunt with it this season.

At the store, I shot a number of arrows during setup, got it dialed in and brought it home. Tonight in the garage I shot three arrows and things were feeling good. On the fourth arrow, my peep broke. The little jib that sticks in the rubber hose broke off. I realize this is an easy fix, but still a bit annoying. So who screwed up? PSE? The tech that setup my bow? Me? I'm most concerned if it was me, cause I don't want to break the one I get installed tomorrow.

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 11:35:00 PM »
My  :twocents: would be to just get rid of that peep and get a meta peep tied in.
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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2013, 11:41:59 PM »
Well I have to get rid of it since its busted in two  :chuckle:

I've heard there were string cutting issues with the G5.  Is that still an issue with them?

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 12:57:52 AM »
I have guys that like the larger plastic peep we sell with the tubing and post.  They intentionally cut off the post and shoot it as a non tubing peep.  However, if what you have is the cheap peep that comes with the PSE package best to get a new one anyway.  That model does not give you the right angles for good aperture vision.  And is possibly the cheapest most idiotic manufactured thing I have seen in peep sights in 20 years.

G5 makes a fine peep.  Most of the guys that have had string issues with it don't know how to tie one in properly.  Our Super-Deuce 38 has deeper grooves and a more aggressive radius on all sharp edges so I believe it is more string friendly than the G5.  But either one should work just fine for you.  If you like spending more money I can not complain about someone using G5 at all.  We both use a similar drafted aperture.  In my opinion that is a great advantage.  So neither has a leg up there.  Ours is anodized, there's is painted you chose your preference there.  Ours is aluminum, theirs is magnesium.  Again you chose your preference there.  Both of us demand top customer service, both of us demand constant improvements if at all possible.  And both of us would be more than happy for you to use our products.  Really hard to go wrong either way as long as your bow/string combination will allow you to ditch the tubing.  Of course if your setup needs tubing we give you that option and G5 does not.

There are some peeps on the market I would certainly stay clear of as they are hard on strings.  Any time you see a square bottom groove cross another square bottom groove you will have troubles.  So that is easy to see even if the peep is in a package.  If you can hold one before purchase even better.  If a sharp edge will shave a fingernail it will cut a string.  So that is an easy test to do for sure.  Some manufacturers cover those sharp points with paint.  It works great unless the paint chips at that spot - which it often does.

Good luck getting it set back up.  I hope you will consider giving RAD peeps a try.  But of not I'm sure you will be pleased with the results you get from G5 too.  Good people, good products.
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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2013, 05:34:15 AM »
+1 for the Radian peep.  I've installed a lot of peep sights over the last 15 years, and the Radians has consistantly been a good product.  I have had several of the larger meta peeps by G5 collapse in the string.  Especially on the speed bows. 
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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2013, 07:38:33 AM »
Some guys like tubeless peeps and some dont. I do like them cause they will line you up straight unless the tube breaks. I replace my tube before the season to prevent breaking at the wrong time.

Tubeless peeps definately look better but require more time to get properly installed. You do need to know what you are doing to get those in straight.

With that said go to a shop and look around see what you like. A good shop bow mechanic shoild be able to see what went wrong with your peep.

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM »
Thanks for the info. I'm going to take it to a shop today to get a new one put in. I don't know enough about what its supposed to look like yet to know what's right if I do it myself.

I'll take a look at the Radian if they have them in stock, always appreciate the first hand knowledge of those actually making this stuff!

So is the only disadvantage of the tubeless peeps is that they're harder to setup?

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 09:30:25 AM »
Yea the tubeless are harder to install if you are not proficient with it. If your bow guy is good he will be able to drop it in correctly without an issue. (And make it look simple)

The key to this is finding that guy who actually can do it. He has to know where to split the string in the exact location so the peep doesn't twist. 

It is definitely a skill to put in.

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 09:34:50 AM »


So is the only disadvantage of the tubeless peeps is that they're harder to setup?

In my opinion yes. I have heard others say that the G5 will change shape, but I haven't personally had that happen. The only other thing to worry about maybe having an issue with them(tubeless) is on a new bow. If your string stretches any you may have to have it adjusted after awhile.
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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 09:35:22 AM »
Thanks for the info. I'm going to take it to a shop today to get a new one put in. I don't know enough about what its supposed to look like yet to know what's right if I do it myself.

I'll take a look at the Radian if they have them in stock, always appreciate the first hand knowledge of those actually making this stuff!

So is the only disadvantage of the tubeless peeps is that they're harder to setup?

If you have custom strings or the strings are made of bcy material like custom strings then they will be pre stretched and you should have consistent peep alignment after it is installed and shot. You might need to tweak your peep after shooting a hundred or so arrows.

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 09:59:32 AM »
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The key to this is finding that guy who actually can do it. He has to know where to split the string in the exact location so the peep doesn't twist. 

Anyone have any opinion on the archery desk guys at Wholesale Sports in Silverdale? It's not where I bought the bow, but I'd like to avoid driving 4 hours round trip to have a peep put in.

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 04:39:16 PM »
I ended up skipping wholesale sports cause the manager there didn't know when his bow tech would be in. Thought that was odd...

Anyways, I found the Peninsula Premier Pro Shop in Belfair. Nice little shop, the guy knows what he's doing, or seems to at least. Super helpful, and recommended that I went with a regular peep since I'm new to the sport. He got my bow set in about thirty seconds and showed me a couple other spots to watch for upgrades in the future. Thanks all!

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 04:49:31 PM »
Tube peep is my favorite regardless. It always stabilizes where I need it.
The meta peep is iffy. Atleast with my limited experience. The tube insures it will always be right where you need it at full draw, as long as its not broken in half :)
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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2013, 05:15:04 AM »
Yeah as long as it isn't broken. 

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Re: Great new bow! But someone screwed up
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2013, 05:51:48 AM »
Broken tubing or a peep sight that decides to twist at the wrong moment. One thing I can guarantee is both will happen at the wrong time. Pick your poision

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