WA Assault Weapons Ban Legislation

[actionshooter]

I didn't read it anywhere, but the only way the would know who had MSRs would be by registration.

[400out]

I don't think this will go thru! but it's a starting point for libs! They can dicker all day with this one             

[longstevo]

So this government make up has me a little confused. 

Do we write our district reps on this one?  The judiciary committee?  Congressional senators? 

I've been writing all of them, but sometimes the scene becomes a bit muddled to me.

[thatkidwho]

but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.

That right there sounds like all cities (technically a corp.) are in violation for having police.

[pianoman9701]

So this government make up has me a little confused. 

Do we write our district reps on this one?  The judiciary committee?  Congressional senators? 

I've been writing all of them, but sometimes the scene becomes a bit muddled to me.

Write your state senator and write the judiciary committee.

[pianoman9701]

Here's the email list for the Judiciary Committee:


jamie.pedersen@leg.wa.gov; drew.hansen@leg.wa.gov; jay.rodne@leg.wa.gov; steve.oban@leg.wa.gov; roger.goodman@leg.wa.gov; mike.hope@leg.wa.gov; laurie.jinkins@leg.wa.gov; steve.kirby@leg.wa.gov; brad.klippert@leg.wa.gov; terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov; tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov; maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov; matt.shea@leg.wa.gov

The committee should be the Senate Committee on Law & Justice. Sorry for the misinformation. Here's the mailing list:

mike.padden@leg.wa.gov; michael.carrell@leg.wa.gov; adam.kline@leg.wa.gov; j.darneille@leg.wa.gov; jeanne.kohl-welles@leg.wa.gov; kirk.pearson@leg.wa.gov; pam.roach@leg.wa.gov

[pianoman9701]

My email to the Judiciary Committee:

"Dear Judiciary Committee Members,

Bill 5737, like almost all of the gun control bills that have been proposed since Jan. 1st, seeks to exploit the deaths of the children at Sandy Hook Elementary so that two senators can forward their personal vision of a gun-free America. Our country and state allows its individual citizens to bear arms without infringement to allow us to protect ourselves and families against harm. This bill absolutely ignores our rights.

This specific bill is so broad in its wording as to include many firearms that are common for household protection and hunting. You must not let these two senators tread on our rights under Section 24 of the WA State Constitution, or the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

It also includes verbiage which would allow officers to search homes for proper storage of Modern Sporting Rifles without warrant, a violation of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, and Section 7 of our state Constitution. This is only the tip of the iceberg on items in this bill that completely ignore the rights of law-abiding citizens.

As a constituent, a WA Master Hunter, a WA Hunter Education instructor, a veteran, and a lawful and careful observer of our liberties, I implore you to discard this bill as unconstitutional and vastly overreaching.

Thank you for your consideration of my comments and your service to our state. I look forward to hearing from you on your intentions regarding this bill.

--
Most Sincerely,
John W"

[snowpack]

So this may be a stretch, depending on how you or 'they' interpret it.  But many of the common pump/semi shot guns can accept a magazine tube extension.  It is detachable without tools (just unscrew with your hand), and actually functions as a magazine itself.  I'm just wondering if there are any thoughts if this would be viewed as a detachable mag and render for example Rem 870's as being an 'assualt weapon'?

[bigtex]

So this government make up has me a little confused. 

Do we write our district reps on this one?  The judiciary committee?  Congressional senators? 

I've been writing all of them, but sometimes the scene becomes a bit muddled to me.

Write to your reps in Olympia. The congress members in DC have no say in this

[csaaphill]

ya someone beat me to it the 4th ammendment is out the door on this.
don't let em in simple but do as you will.
Seems like each proposed bill weather it's NY, California, New Jersey, Washington now and Oregon to follow soon, has more and more provisions to disarm us.
And ya read that once years ago about here in Washington you can't be part of a militia. Which kind of contradicts the 2nd and it's meaning so in retrospect couldn't that be argued against?
Personally don't care get friends to back you when they come and be armed and ready. No law can take a persons right to rebel away just have to be willing.
Ya go ahead and send emails now but don't rely on the pen always. 

[huntrights]

I believe the people that are watching the posts in this part of the forum are most likely committed to writing and calling their Representatives.  We all need to push this outside of the forum.  There are tens of thousands of hunters and gun owners that are not engaged to the degree they should be.  We all know many other hunters and gun owners that are not watching for these alerts and calls to action.  Please contact all of them and urge them to pay attention and take action.

The anti-gun zealots have been empowered by Obama and the tragedy in Connecticut.  The only way we are going fend off these attacks on our rights and freedoms is to get ALL hunters and gun owners involved.  Remember, both Republicans and Democrats are hunters and gun-owners.

I wonder if those that voted for an anti-gun President and anti-gun Representatives are having some buyer's remorse.  I hope it's not too late for them to learn a lesson.  Don't vote party lines, vote for people that will defend and protect our rights and freedoms guaranteed to us by our Constitution and Bill of Rights.  Those who assumed Obama and his followers in Congress and in state legislatures wouldn't wage a war on our Second Amendment Rights were obviously very wrong.  I hope those who voted badly will now stand with us to protect our rights and freedoms.

[xd2005]

IMHO, too much attention has been paid to the federal level and not enough at the state level. With a house, senate, and Governor all Democrat (yes, I know the Senate is under a negotiated split control), our state is prime for seeing a lot of these measures go through.

On the federal level, the Democrats only control two of the three, nothing will make it through there.

It's almost like the administration used the federal pushes as a smokescreen to distract people from what is taking place in the states.

[X-Force]

Actually very few rifles and shotguns we use for hunting would be affected by this.

22 rifles are exempt because it specifically says "centerfire" rifle.

This is where most guns wouldn't meet the definition:

that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine, with a capacity to accept more then ten rounds of ammunition

Are you sure rimfires are exempt? the way i read it is c) Any semiautomatic pistol, any semiautomatic, center-fire rifle, or any shotgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition;
with the comma to me it says any semi auto... if it read any semiautomatic center-fire rifle i would agree with you that rimfires are exempt.

[pianoman9701]

Revised and sent to the correct committee. Sorry again.

"Dear Senate Committee on Law and Justice Members,

Bill 5737, like almost all of the gun control bills that have been proposed since Jan. 1st, seeks to exploit the deaths of the children at Sandy Hook Elementary so that two senators can forward their personal vision of a gun-free America. Our country and state allows its individual citizens to bear arms without infringement to allow us to protect ourselves and families against harm. This bill absolutely ignores our rights.

This specific bill is so broad in its wording as to include many firearms that are common for household protection and hunting. You must not let these two senators tread on our rights under Section 24 of the WA State Constitution, or the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

It also includes verbiage which would allow officers to search homes for proper storage of Modern Sporting Rifles without warrant, a violation of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, and Section 7 of our state Constitution. This is only the tip of the iceberg on items in this bill that completely ignore the rights of law-abiding citizens.

As a constituent, a WA Master Hunter, a WA Hunter Education instructor, a veteran, and a lawful and careful observer of our liberties, I implore you to discard this bill as unconstitutional and vastly overreaching.

Thank you for your consideration of my comments and your service to our state. I look forward to hearing from you on your intentions regarding this bill.

--
Most Sincerely,
John W"

[lokidog]

So this may be a stretch, depending on how you or 'they' interpret it.  But many of the common pump/semi shot guns can accept a magazine tube extension.  It is detachable without tools (just unscrew with your hand), and actually functions as a magazine itself.  I'm just wondering if there are any thoughts if this would be viewed as a detachable mag and render for example Rem 870's as being an 'assualt weapon'?

AND

Actually very few rifles and shotguns we use for hunting would be affected by this.

22 rifles are exempt because it specifically says "centerfire" rifle.

This is where most guns wouldn't meet the definition:

that is capable of accepting a detachable magazine, with a capacity to accept more then ten rounds of ammunition

Are you sure rimfires are exempt? the way i read it is c) Any semiautomatic pistol, any semiautomatic, center-fire rifle, or any shotgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition;
with the comma to me it says any semi auto... if it read any semiautomatic center-fire rifle i would agree with you that rimfires are exempt.

IT DOESN'T MATTER, THIS IS BAD FOR EVERYONE WHETHER THE ONLY GUN YOU OWN IS A 22 OR AN 870 SHOTGUN!!  This is what the banners count on, people finding the little exclusion for themselves so, hey it doesn't affect me.....   

I am going through my email address book and asking all, libs included, to oppose this insanity.