The absurdity of WDFW draw system

[huntnnw]

yeah there is...when has the Gov't given a chit what people think?

[bobcat]

yeah there is...when has the Gov't given a chit what people think?

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.

Are you saying you think the WDFW could do away with the point system and limit our applications each year, the same way Idaho does?

[huntnnw]

I am just saying they can do whatever they please....but we will never see it changed cause it wouldnt benefit their pocket books

[idahohuntr]

Bobcat is right, more permits in Idaho = higher draw odds...but there were roughly 58,000 more hunting licenses sold in ID (252,000) than in WA (194,000).  I would also add that Idaho doesn't really manage any units for trophy hunting...they manage for quantity...unlike many of the quality bull eastside units.

[huntnnw]

ill take any of ID quantity draw mule deer tags any day over anything in WA

[BULLBLASTER]

One example of better odds in Idaho is a moose hunt that has 15 bull tags... average of 200 applicants... same hunt in wa would have 2000+ apps. There isn't that many more people in wa.

I agree with huntnnw on the Idaho quantity tags

[huntnnw]

people in this state drooling over a desert tag and 5,000 apps...wow....theres plenty of hunts in ID and others that are a general hunt better quality bucks taken every year..I laugh my ass every year seeing pics of desert harvest. and think of how long they applied for this let down

[bobcat]

So if Washington would get rid of points and do the draw the same as Idaho, we'd have the same good odds of drawing and bigger bucks and bulls in every unit?

[huntnnw]

and pick OIL or bucks and bulls..point systems suck!! and 5 year waiting period after u draw a trophy bull or buck unit. u would see apps in category's cut in half!

this state should be DRAW only for mule deer too! way to many people hunting far to little habitat..look at the other western states that have 10X the mule deer we have and half the human pop and they are all draw. This state could have fantastic and trophy quality hunts all over.

[skywalker253]

and pick OIL or bucks and bulls..point systems suck!! and 5 year waiting period after u draw a trophy bull or buck unit. u would see apps in category's cut in half!

this state should be DRAW only for mule deer too! way to many people hunting far to little habitat..look at the other western states that have 10X the mule deer we have and half the human pop and they are all draw. This state could have fantastic and trophy quality hunts all over.

Is that factual information or your opinion? Post some factual info to support your statements. I am not saying I disagree with you. I would just like to see how you came to these conclusions.

[bobcat]

I agree it should be draw only for mule deer. Which would probably mean draw only for ALL deer, or most deer anyway. Since doing away with general seasons for mule deer would end up putting a lot more pressure on whitetail deer and blacktail deer.

[huntnnw]

Also deer tags should be just like elk here pick a side

[skywalker253]

I agree it should be draw only for mule deer. Which would probably mean draw only for ALL deer, or most deer anyway. Since doing away with general seasons for mule deer would end up putting a lot more pressure on whitetail deer and blacktail deer.

Draw only would be good for specific units, which have too many hunters on top of each other. With more land becoming private, leased, posted, windmills, etc. it is putting too many people in an area and turning the hunting experience into an opening morning hunt. A legal buck is lucky to make it out of the canyon they are in, but usually get killed in the next canyon they enter. What use to be a quality hunt has turned into "killing a deer not hunting." In many cases the deer being harvested are barely legal, because most hunters are not going to pass on a barely legal buck; knowing it is gonna get killed by the next guy. I have passed on several small deer, which I watched run a few hundred yards and get shot by the next guy.

[idahohuntr]

So if Washington would get rid of points and do the draw the same as Idaho, we'd have the same good odds of drawing and bigger bucks and bulls in every unit?

Don't we all wish   I say keep the points, limit the apps/choices per hunter to bring odds up (still won't be as good as Idaho given their higher numbers of tags).  This of course does not change the quantity/quality of animals in the units.

[idahohuntr]

people in this state drooling over a desert tag and 5,000 apps...wow....theres plenty of hunts in ID and others that are a general hunt better quality bucks taken every year..I laugh my ass every year seeing pics of desert harvest. and think of how long they applied for this let down

I've hunted many Idaho draw mule deer units but I can't compare it to any WA mule deer hunts.  I still put in for WA hunts because I live here and it only costs me a few dollars...that probably goes for the other 5000 people you mention...its not that everyone thinks there are no better units...just convenient to draw a tag closer to home and cheaper.  Thats why I think limiting application choices would be a good thing, it would make more of the medium quality tags a lot easier to draw, and those medium quality tags are still better than a general WA deer hunt which IMO is a joke in many units.