Let the accessorizing begin

[Machias]

Ok, help me outfit this bad boy.  I bought this today at Quantico Tactical for $877.  After tax it was $922.  I get the $100 mail in rebate so I got a S & W M&P 15 OR, 5.56, for $822.  Which as we all know in today's market is just fricken awesome.  They had 7 left in the store.  Came with one magpul 30 rd mag.  So any suggestions on optics, sights, acessories, rounds (it's a 1 in 9 twist).  I'll be using it for yotes, varmits and home defense.  Thanks for any suggestions.

[trophyhunt]

Damn pretty gun! I don't know anything about outfitting those guns but I'm sure you'll get plenty of advise on here.

[DRobnsn]

I'd start with a new hand guard maybe a quad rail setup. How about a decent scope with QR style rings so you can switch back and forth between a red dot or something for home defense.

[Machias]

I'd start with a new hand guard maybe a quad rail setup. How about a decent scope with QR style rings so you can switch back and forth between a red dot or something for home defense.

Any makes or brands you recommend?

[madcow41]

Buy a magpul moe foreend then add blackhawk rails you can find at Walmart its cheaper than a quad rail

[lazydrifter]

http://smith-wessonforum.com/forum.php

[actionshooter]

Look at a Larue QD mounting system and a Leupold 1.5-5 SPR illuminated, thats a great scope for defense and has a good reticle for 2-300 yards (yotes).
 I wouldn't bother with a quad rail but the Magapul parts would be good.
 The biggest would be to throw a good trigger in JP or Geissele.   

[MLHSN]

If you want to save a little money and not go high-end.  I've put in several Rock River Arms trigger kits that I liked quite a bit.  You can buy them with a hogue grip for $90.  Turn around and sell the the old trigger group for $45 and then you are only out $45 for a new trigger and grip.  I wouldn't just buy quad rail handguards..  My suggestion would be at least something free-floated.  I'm not really a fan of vertical groups.  I find that I end up just using them as a hand stop.  I much more prefer  the Magpul angled fore grip.  If you want to go a little cheaper on optics.  You can get a primary arms red dot and then get a magnifier for it.  I think the combo goes for like $150.  I have one of their Aimpoint knock-offs and I'm a fan for the price. 

[Ridgeratt]

I have heard Yankee Hill is pretty good stuff

http://www.yhm.net/

[Machias]

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it!

[Bean Counter]

Is it going to be a coyote/plinking gun or a zombie apocalypse gun? If the latter I would go with a large latch charging handle from a manufacturer such as VLTOR. If money is no object I would definitely add the quad rail and at least one pressure-activated light source. I have a Crimson Trace MVF-515G.  Bright green laser makes indexing your target too easy!  The green is so bright it provides enough ambient light in a dark house even if you don't use the flashlight. So I suppose one could go with a green laser only to save a little cash.

[Machias]

It's going to be more of a yote thumper.  I do want to add a Kill light 100 or 250, red lense, love the light.  I think I'll need a good back up flip front and rear sight and a decent scope.  The triger seems fine to me at this point, but then maybe I've never used a "good" trigger so I don't know what I'm missing.

[Axle]

Keep us posted on your build project. And definitely on your shooting adventures! 

[Heredoggydoggy]

Main thing I can say is get rid of that crappy straight trigger guard and get a Rock River Winter Trigger Guard.  ($15).  More room for a gloved finger in cold weather.  Scopes and mounts are a personal choice, but I prefer the one-piece scope mounts (like the P.E.R.P. mount, but you can get others for half the price), for their machined scope channels and strength. 

[DRobnsn]

Sorry I should have specified free floating for end with quad rail. As far as the scope mounting options I have two sets of the Leupold QR style rings and I really like them. I do like the one piece mounting options as well just don't have any at this time so I can't attest to them. Also depending on your scope mounting choice you may need to get a riser of some kind to make it comfortable to get the proper line of sight. I wouldn't go cheap on this, Yankee hill makes extremely nice stuff and the mini risers they have made for a perfect scope height for me. I tried a lower end one piece riser and couldn't get it to stay tight it was also way to tall.

I have a Nikon 3-9X40 with Leupold QR high rings Yankee hill mini risers and its perfect line of sight for me. 

[poopooheaddad]

just marking,,,

[Machias]

Main thing I can say is get rid of that crappy straight trigger guard and get a Rock River Winter Trigger Guard.  ($15).  More room for a gloved finger in cold weather.  Scopes and mounts are a personal choice, but I prefer the one-piece scope mounts (like the P.E.R.P. mount, but you can get others for half the price), for their machined scope channels and strength. 

Going to get one of these:

http://www.molonlabe.com/tgflag.html

[jrebel]

I went with a rifle length Yankee Hill free floating quad rail on my set up so it would allow for a longer sight picture and (in theory) better accuracy with open sights.  I also have more room for bi pod further out toward the muzzle.   For sights I went with the RRA tactical dual aperture rear with a Magpul flip up front sight.  This should accommodate a nice reflex sight and still give me the ability to go iron for back up.  I am new to this as well, but it seems like a good set up in my head.

Here is a link to the rra tactical rear sight.  It also has a spot for a spare battery located on the other side.

http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=436

I am building mine tomorrow and will post a pic if you are interested in the way it looks.  Finally got all the parts last week. 

Johnny
 

[Machias]

I am building mine tomorrow and will post a pic if you are interested in the way it looks.  Finally got all the parts last week. 

Johnny
 

Yes please!

[Heredoggydoggy]

Main thing I can say is get rid of that crappy straight trigger guard and get a Rock River Winter Trigger Guard.  ($15).  More room for a gloved finger in cold weather.  Scopes and mounts are a personal choice, but I prefer the one-piece scope mounts (like the P.E.R.P. mount, but you can get others for half the price), for their machined scope channels and strength. 

Going to get one of these:

http://www.molonlabe.com/tgflag.html

I've got one of the Magpul enhanced trigger guards on one of my ARs (non-engraved).  RRA Winters on the other 4--I like them better.... 

[jrebel]

Main thing I can say is get rid of that crappy straight trigger guard and get a Rock River Winter Trigger Guard.  ($15).  More room for a gloved finger in cold weather.  Scopes and mounts are a personal choice, but I prefer the one-piece scope mounts (like the P.E.R.P. mount, but you can get others for half the price), for their machined scope channels and strength. 

Going to get one of these:

http://www.molonlabe.com/tgflag.html

I've got one of the Magpul enhanced trigger guards on one of my ARs (non-engraved).  RRA Winters on the other 4--I like them better.... 

What is the difference....I just bought the RRA enhanced to put on my build.  Why do you like one over the other?

[Heredoggydoggy]

Main thing I can say is get rid of that crappy straight trigger guard and get a Rock River Winter Trigger Guard.  ($15).  More room for a gloved finger in cold weather.  Scopes and mounts are a personal choice, but I prefer the one-piece scope mounts (like the P.E.R.P. mount, but you can get others for half the price), for their machined scope channels and strength. 

Going to get one of these:

http://www.molonlabe.com/tgflag.html

I've got one of the Magpul enhanced trigger guards on one of my ARs (non-engraved).  RRA Winters on the other 4--I like them better.... 

What is the difference....I just bought the RRA enhanced to put on my build.  Why do you like one over the other?

They are both good, but the RRA trigger guard gives a LOT more room for a gloved finger.  The Magpul looks better, but I think the RRA is more fuctional.  I'm a coyote hunter--looks don't mean squat to me.... 

[jrebel]

Main thing I can say is get rid of that crappy straight trigger guard and get a Rock River Winter Trigger Guard.  ($15).  More room for a gloved finger in cold weather.  Scopes and mounts are a personal choice, but I prefer the one-piece scope mounts (like the P.E.R.P. mount, but you can get others for half the price), for their machined scope channels and strength. 

Going to get one of these:

http://www.molonlabe.com/tgflag.html

I've got one of the Magpul enhanced trigger guards on one of my ARs (non-engraved).  RRA Winters on the other 4--I like them better.... 

What is the difference....I just bought the RRA enhanced to put on my build.  Why do you like one over the other?

They are both good, but the RRA trigger guard gives a LOT more room for a gloved finger.  The Magpul looks better, but I think the RRA is more fuctional.  I'm a coyote hunter--looks don't mean squat to me.... 

Thanks...that is great information.  I am new to this AR game so it good to hear from people who have experienced it.   

[Blacklab]

Here's my grendel build. Still tweaking the handloads getting close tho not there yet 
18 inch AA 1x8.75
YH free float mid rifle
Vtor a-5 collapsable stock love it 
m-223 nikon nikoplec 3x12
3lb timney solid trigger

[Dan-o]

That just looks wicked......   in a way that really makes me wish it was mine.

[Special T]

http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/ar-15-m16-1/upper-receivers-parts/muzzle-devices/be-meyers-flash-hider-for-5-56mm-weapons.html
Be Meyers flash hider. Eliminates 96% of visible light. Made in Redmond Wa.  I've had it shot next to me at night and didn't get a flash while 6 ft away...
B.E. Meyers: Flash Hiders - 5.56mm
See the difference.

[Machias]

Blacklab....SWEEET looking gun.  What is the scope mount?

[Machias]

Special T  wow, huge difference!!!

[Heredoggydoggy]

Blacklab....SWEEET looking gun.  What is the scope mount?

Blacklab:  All that fancy stuff, and a stock trigger guard?  BAH! 

Machias:  You're paying $5 more fore laser engraving on a Trigger Guard?
                I paid $5 for THIS!

[Blacklab]

 Heredoggydoggy
 lol so I have small fingers 

Machias It's a nikon m-223 1 peice

[Heredoggydoggy]

Heredoggydoggy
 lol so I have small fingers 

Machias It's a nikon m-223 1 peice

  Nice scope mount.  Bet you didn't have to wait as long for the mount as I've been waiting for my Rock River 1-piece mount.  No biggie--I don't have the barrel for my 6mmX6.8 SPC build yet either.
BTW: I have a Grendel AR build too--Except it's a 20 LBC.  (6.5 Grendel case necked down to .204)
 

[Blacklab]

Nice! I was thinking of buliding another in 204 why I don't know. Maybe because it's faster than a 223 Then *censored* went crazy  . So it's on the back burner.

[Heredoggydoggy]

Nice! I was thinking of buliding another in 204 why I don't know. Maybe because it's faster than a 223 Then *censored* went crazy  . So it's on the back burner.

They are worse than potato chips.  I've got 4 ARs (had 5--sold one.) and only one is 223.  I'll be back to 5 again when all the parts come for my 6mmX6.8 build.  They told me 6-8 weeks for my barrel.  Yesterday was 8 weeks.  But that's what they said about my 20 LBC barrel, and it was 6 Months.  But when it finally came--Hoo, Man!  I love it!   

[Blacklab]

lol here that my aa grendel was 6 to 8 weeks out 5 months 1 day later it came in.

[thinkingman]

I would lose that buttstock and buy something with a better cheek weld for precision shooting.
Definitely a free float HG and avoid the 'more Picatinny is better' idea.

[Machias]

Thanks for the suggestions.

[jrebel]

These are the two builds that were completed today.  Mine is the one with the tactical sight and a buddies is the detachable A2 handle,   

Question for those that are in the know......I bought the completed uppers from a company out of Texas.  They have RRA upper receivers, with Yankee Hill free float quad rails.  I notice on mine that the quad rail is loose and wiggles.  It appears to me that the barrel nut is not torqued down.  I don't have any experience with this and have no tools to correct the problem, but it needs to be corrected.  I am assuming my diagnosis is correct, but again not sure.  Anyone near Wenatchee with experience and tools that can lend me a hand??? 

[Machias]

Sweeeeet looking!!!

[Heredoggydoggy]

On those YHM handguards, the barrel nut must be torqued to the proper tightness, AND indexed exactly 12 o'clock-6 o'clock to the centerline for the 2 screws in the 3 o'clock-9 o'clock holes in the handguard to lock into the grooves in the barrel nut.  If the 2 screws are fully tight, and the forearm is loose, then the barrel nut is loose.  Looseness will be limited by the gas tube going through the holes in the barrel nut.

[jrebel]

On those YHM handguards, the barrel nut must be torqued to the proper tightness, AND indexed exactly 12 o'clock-6 o'clock to the centerline for the 2 screws in the 3 o'clock-9 o'clock holes in the handguard to lock into the grooves in the barrel nut.  If the 2 screws are fully tight, and the forearm is loose, then the barrel nut is loose.  Looseness will be limited by the gas tube going through the holes in the barrel nut.

Thanks for the response you hit the nail on the head.  The barrel nut was not tightened down all the way.  The guys at High Mountain fixed it right up for me.  When I bought the completed uppers this is the way one came.  The other was tight so the company that made the upper must have just forgot to torque it down. 


Huge shout out to HIGH MOUNTAIN HUNTING SUPPLY in Wenatchee.  Kelsey, Dewey and Mich were awsome today and got my AR back up in running. 

HUGE THANKS   

Johnny

[gramps]

I added one of these to the bottom of the handrail.  Made by an outfit in Israel.

http://www.zahal.org/products/ergonomic-pointing-grip-ptk/?a=244099

[Machias]

Nice, I like it!