Author Topic: Dang cougars ; Updated with cougar pictures (Read 15873 times)

IBspoiled · « **on:** February 16, 2013, 07:32:56 PM »

So It's been three weeks since I checked my trail camera, and today this is what I found thirty yards from it.!!!! And not One picture of any elk or cougars on my trail cam. Anybody that has previous success at calling cougars, let me know, I have the day off tomorrow. I tried calling today, but didn't get any action. I'm an extreme rookie caller and was using my new foxpro with cougar sounds, but not sure that is the best course of action. Last time I walked in to check my camera, I was not even packing my pistol,

That won't happen again.

blacktailcody · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2013, 07:38:54 PM »

Crap that sucks. To bad you cannot keep it.

bearpaw · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2013, 07:40:15 PM »

I assume season is still open in your area. I would sneak in there downwind from the kill as quiet as you can, only get as close as needed for a shot, do not circle the kill, leave as little scent in the area as possible, DO NOT APPROACH THE KILL, DO NOT CALL, be quiet and let the kill work for you. I would try to watch it for a few hours in the morning and the last 3 hours in the evening. If you call the cat will know there is something different and may not come back.

yote · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2013, 07:48:17 PM »

Go whack that cougar & save some deer/elk!

IBspoiled · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2013, 08:12:22 PM »

OK so far I have done everything wrong

Thank you for the advice Bearpaw. I will change my strategy and see if I can take this cat and yes the season is open in this area. The area that this cat is in, he would be used to people and crossing roads, so I'm hoping that my presence isn't too much of a bother to him. Anymore advice would be much appreciated. I have a few deer distress calls on my foxpro and rabbits, but I won't do any calling near the kill.

Jingles · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2013, 08:23:12 PM »

They can take a longer than usual time at coming in so be patient. If possible have a motion decoy separate for the caller too.
Carry your hand saw with you in case you do get the cougar can salvage the horns

trophyhunt · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2013, 08:30:22 PM »

It looks like it's done feeding on this kill? but I'm definetly not an expert, I hope you get him. And don't leave those antlers in the woods, you bought them at a garage sale in packwood last labor day weekend!

IBspoiled · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2013, 08:49:08 PM »

The horns can stay for the mice and squirrels, I have plenty at home that my dogs chew on. I'm not going to push my luck with something like that. Not worth it.

I do have a sit and spin that I set up when calling. There is only meat on one hindquarter left, so I'm not sure if he would be done at this point or not.

trophyhunt · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2013, 08:56:00 PM »

Thats too bad, it's a shame to leave nice anlters in the woods, but I don't blame you for leaving them since it's on the net now. It should be against the law to leave good antlers in the woods!

IBspoiled · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2013, 07:02:00 PM »

Well yesterday I moved my trail camera just down wind of the kill I had found. I chose to not put it directly on the kill as I didn't want 50,000 pictures of crows, blue jays etc. I got there this morning and it looked like it had been eaten on more. I checked my camera and sure enough, my first ever real cougar (not a house cat)on a trail camera. And a bonus of a bobcat a few hours later.

My first setup this morning for calling was about 1/2 mile away. I set and called randomly for over an hour using a deer distress call. About 30 seconds after I stood up and decided I would try a different spot, the cougar screamed at me from across a draw.

IBspoiled · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2013, 08:15:12 PM »

blindpig · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2013, 08:29:05 PM »

WOW, very interesting. keep us updated.

rfhd69 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 19, 2013, 01:26:17 PM »

Hope you get him!

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Jingles · « **Reply #13 on:** February 19, 2013, 01:40:31 PM »

Need some direction here. Have looked through the Game regs and can not see where it prohibits the collection of antlers from dead animals found in the wild. I found where it is Legal to possess naturally shed antlers of deer elk and moose but can NOT find anything that says you can't collect antlers from animals found dead or even where it says you can't have them.
I am not reading between the lines of the regs and if it doesn't say you can't then that means you can.....

wsucowboy · « **Reply #14 on:** February 19, 2013, 01:44:21 PM »

Quote from: blindpig on February 17, 2013, 08:29:05 PM

WOW, very interesting. keep us updated.

bearpaw · « **Reply #15 on:** February 19, 2013, 01:49:08 PM »

Quote from: Jingles on February 19, 2013, 01:40:31 PM

Need some direction here. Have looked through the Game regs and can not see where it prohibits the collection of antlers from dead animals found in the wild. I found where it is Legal to possess naturally shed antlers of deer elk and moose but can NOT find anything that says you can't collect antlers from animals found dead or even where it says you can't have them.
I am not reading between the lines of the regs and if it doesn't say you can't then that means you can.....

naturally shed antlers (that means shed antlers, this is a kill, they are not shed antlers, I know, crazy isn't it)

Jingles · « **Reply #16 on:** February 19, 2013, 01:52:15 PM »

Bear paw
Thanks but like I said no where in the regs does it say you CAN NOT have them.....

bearpaw · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:05:52 PM »

Quote from: trophyhunt on February 16, 2013, 08:30:22 PM

It looks like it's done feeding on this kill?

These last pics are a few days old so he may be done by now, but there was still a fair amount of meat on the bottom side. It looks like he's coming in after dark. Maybe check along any roads or trails for tracks where he might be crossing. He's got a bed somewhere that he is spending daylight hours. If you could figure out where, try calling near there with a fawn bleat or cow call before he leaves the area. Once he is finished he will move on hunting until he makes another kill.

I've seen a lot of kills with only hair, some pieces of spine, a little piece of skull, jaw, and some foreleg bone left. If there is anything left he may come back to chew on it if he doesn't make a new kill, so you might get another chance at him after he has been gone a day or two.

bearpaw · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:11:24 PM »

Quote from: Jingles on February 19, 2013, 01:52:15 PM

Bear paw
Thanks but like I said no where in the regs does it say you CAN NOT have them.....

I can't remember exactly how it is in WA for absolute sure, but what I said might be the way it is. I know for certain that in Utah you get a ticket unless they are naturally shed antlers, they are very strict about it. Before I picked them up I would ask the local warden or call the regional office and explain the situation. It might be fine, but better to check first.

Smossy · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:16:35 PM »

Holy cow.

IBspoiled · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:47:50 PM »

Have to wait until next Sunday

I'll see what is left when I get there and what is on my camera then. About a mile away from the kill, I found a kitty litter area. I'll keep you guys updated, hope to bring this kitty home.

Smossy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:52:53 PM »

Quote from: IBspoiled on February 19, 2013, 02:47:50 PM

Have to wait until next Sunday I'll see what is left when I get there and what is on my camera then. About a mile away from the kill, I found a kitty litter area. I'll keep you guys updated, hope to bring this kitty home.

Goodluck man, be safe.

bearpaw · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2013, 03:12:40 PM »

Quote from: IBspoiled on February 19, 2013, 02:47:50 PM

Have to wait until next Sunday I'll see what is left when I get there and what is on my camera then. About a mile away from the kill, I found a kitty litter area. I'll keep you guys updated, hope to bring this kitty home.

If you get fresh snow and find tracks you could try walking him out, he should be close, move slow and quiet, watch closely, if you jump him then keep dogging him. Good luck...

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2013, 03:14:44 PM »

You can not even pick up a skull with the horns attached

I would go buy some chickens from the neighbor and place them on the elk kill ....or any fresh meat for that matter ... Most likely he is not far and they can smell fresk blood a long way off !

bearpaw · « **Reply #24 on:** February 19, 2013, 03:19:33 PM »

Perfectly legal to bait cougar as long as you are not using edible parts of game animals or game fish or roadkill wildlife. I'm pretty sure you cannot move roadkill deer.

gaddy · « **Reply #25 on:** February 19, 2013, 03:47:53 PM »

watching this one. "here kitty kitty"

pendoreilleadventures · « **Reply #26 on:** February 23, 2013, 09:37:05 PM »

IBspoiled · « **Reply #27 on:** February 23, 2013, 09:47:22 PM »

Ok I'm leaving in the morning to try again, and I will post trail cam pictures, and pictures of the dead bull to show if it still being eaten on.Here KITTY KITTY

sumbeech66 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:39:50 AM »

Well what happened? You have an audience now and you're holding out.

IBspoiled · « **Reply #29 on:** February 25, 2013, 09:20:47 AM »

Well here is whats left, the coyotes had a go at it too. No picts on the trail cam other than deer and yotes. It did snow so I searched for cat tracks but found nothing. Also tried calling but nothing there either.I also moved my cam and pointed it at the elk, we'll see what's there in a couple more weeks.

Jingles · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2013, 09:45:20 AM »

Quote from: bearpaw on February 19, 2013, 03:19:33 PM

Perfectly legal to bait cougar as long as you are not using edible parts of game animals or game fish or roadkill wildlife. I'm pretty sure you cannot move roadkill deer.

Don't want to start an argument here but you can pick up road kill and use it for bait. Page 77 Washington's 2012 Big game Hunting Seasons and Regulations.
Possession and use of wildlife
"#4 Wildlife found dead.
You may remove and dispose of wildlife found dead on your property or an adjoining public roadway, but you must notify WDFW. Dead wildlife can only be removed for disposal not for personal use or consumption. ( WAC 246-203-121)"

flinter · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2013, 10:03:19 AM »

Check out Rain Shadows game calls. Steve is a local guy from the Port Angles area that has recorded real cat sounds, get his CD you won't be disappointed. You will also get top notch cat hunting hunting tips like always give the big cats the up hill advantage, leave your twirly decoys at home, bury your e-call in some brush so the cat has to look for it. Good luck!!!

IBspoiled · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2013, 10:49:55 AM »

Quote from: flinter on February 25, 2013, 10:03:19 AM

Check out Rain Shadows game calls. Steve is a local guy from the Port Angles area that has recorded real cat sounds, get his CD you won't be disappointed. You will also get top notch cat hunting hunting tips like always give the big cats the up hill advantage, leave your twirly decoys at home, bury your e-call in some brush so the cat has to look for it. Good luck!!!

Thanks I'll check it out!!

7t9cobra · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2013, 10:54:51 PM »

Goodluck! I bought a call and cd from rainshadow. Great infomation!

hunterrcc · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:27:27 AM »

This is such bull *censored* I hate poachers!!! They should give them animal cruelty charges! Lock them up for it and kick them out of our state when they get out! No second chances, lives tough, live and learn!

NWBREW · « **Reply #35 on:** March 08, 2013, 01:22:45 AM »

Quote from: hunterrcc on March 08, 2013, 12:27:27 AM

This is such bull *censored* I hate poachers!!! They should give them animal cruelty charges! Lock them up for it and kick them out of our state when they get out! No second chances, lives tough, live and learn!

Poachers?........Did I miss something? Are you sure your in the right thread?

blacktailcody · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2013, 07:30:00 AM »

NoImpactNoIdea · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2013, 08:46:19 AM »

Quote from: NWBREW on March 08, 2013, 01:22:45 AM

Quote from: hunterrcc on March 08, 2013, 12:27:27 AM
This is such bull *censored* I hate poachers!!! They should give them animal cruelty charges! Lock them up for it and kick them out of our state when they get out! No second chances, lives tough, live and learn!

I'm a little lost after this comment as well.

Poachers?........Did I miss something? Are you sure your in the right thread?

lokidog · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2013, 01:23:43 PM »

Quote from: Jingles on February 25, 2013, 09:45:20 AM

Quote from: bearpaw on February 19, 2013, 03:19:33 PM
Perfectly legal to bait cougar as long as you are not using edible parts of game animals or game fish or roadkill wildlife. I'm pretty sure you cannot move roadkill deer.
Don't want to start an argument here but you can pick up road kill and use it for bait. Page 77 Washington's 2012 Big game Hunting Seasons and Regulations.
Possession and use of wildlife
"#4 Wildlife found dead.
You may remove and dispose of wildlife found dead on your property or an adjoining public roadway, but you must notify WDFW. Dead wildlife can only be removed for disposal not for personal use or consumption. ( WAC 246-203-121)"

It does look like you could use roadkill for cougar bait, IF it is found dead on YOUR property or the road adjoining it. You can't just drive down the road and pick up a fresh dead deer from anywhere, unfortunately.

IB, check your local schools, there might be someone (biology teacher?) there with a salvage permit like my wife has for her classroom. They would probably love to get the skull. You might also contact WDFW and ask for the person in charge of salvage permits. They would likely be able to get you in touch with someone that could use it.

timberhunter · « **Reply #39 on:** March 09, 2013, 01:37:44 PM »

poachers? where did that come from? good luck i hope you call it in, and good luck to everyone cougar hunting! i hope you all fill your tag!

IBspoiled · « **Reply #40 on:** March 11, 2013, 12:09:05 AM »

Ok here are some more picts from this week. the person in the photo is not me, and I'm glad to see he only took pictures. I removed my trail cam from this spot , to many people there.But i did leave my camera that I got cougar pictures on, just a few miles away. hope to get more.wished I had more time to hunt these cats .

IBspoiled · « **Reply #41 on:** March 11, 2013, 12:13:44 AM »

Oh I forgot to add that the cougar standing in the snow is also standing in my footprints from a few hours before

bobcat · « **Reply #42 on:** March 11, 2013, 12:34:00 AM »

I bet some of those hoof rot elk are easy pickin's for those cats.

bearpaw · « **Reply #43 on:** March 11, 2013, 12:34:41 AM »

Quote from: lokidog on March 08, 2013, 01:23:43 PM

Quote from: Jingles on February 25, 2013, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: bearpaw on February 19, 2013, 03:19:33 PM
Perfectly legal to bait cougar as long as you are not using edible parts of game animals or game fish or roadkill wildlife. I'm pretty sure you cannot move roadkill deer.
Don't want to start an argument here but you can pick up road kill and use it for bait. Page 77 Washington's 2012 Big game Hunting Seasons and Regulations.
Possession and use of wildlife
"#4 Wildlife found dead.
You may remove and dispose of wildlife found dead on your property or an adjoining public roadway, but you must notify WDFW. Dead wildlife can only be removed for disposal not for personal use or consumption. ( WAC 246-203-121)"

It does look like you could use roadkill for cougar bait, IF it is found dead on YOUR property or the road adjoining it. You can't just drive down the road and pick up a fresh dead deer from anywhere, unfortunately.

IB, check your local schools, there might be someone (biology teacher?) there with a salvage permit like my wife has for her classroom. They would probably love to get the skull. You might also contact WDFW and ask for the person in charge of salvage permits. They would likely be able to get you in touch with someone that could use it.

This sentence also specifies you can not use roadkill for your personal use even if it is dead on your property or adjoining highway.

Quote

Dead wildlife can only be removed for disposal not for personal use or consumption.

lokidog · « **Reply #44 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:08:21 AM »

I would argue that if I am not wearing it or dsplaying it, I am not "using" it.

It just happens to be within rifle range of me.

IBspoiled · « **Reply #45 on:** March 11, 2013, 02:04:08 PM »

Quote from: bobcat on March 11, 2013, 12:34:00 AM

I bet some of those hoof rot elk are easy pickin's for those cats.

This area has no hoof rot that I know of, easy pickin's none the less

IBspoiled · « **Reply #46 on:** March 12, 2013, 12:55:26 PM »

Quote from: IBspoiled on March 11, 2013, 12:09:05 AM

Ok here are some more picts from this week. the person in the photo is not me, and I'm glad to see he only took pictures. I removed my trail cam from this spot , to many people there.But i did leave my camera that I got cougar pictures on, just a few miles away. hope to get more.wished I had more time to hunt these cats .

Well i found out that the person in the photo is a friend so I didn't need to take my camera down

Smossy · « **Reply #47 on:** March 12, 2013, 02:05:26 PM »

Quote from: IBspoiled on March 12, 2013, 12:55:26 PM

Quote from: IBspoiled on March 11, 2013, 12:09:05 AM
Ok here are some more picts from this week. the person in the photo is not me, and I'm glad to see he only took pictures. I removed my trail cam from this spot , to many people there.But i did leave my camera that I got cougar pictures on, just a few miles away. hope to get more.wished I had more time to hunt these cats .
Well i found out that the person in the photo is a friend so I didn't need to take my camera down

Lol just struttin his stuff on your cam, Did he know it was there or what?

IBspoiled · « **Reply #48 on:** March 12, 2013, 02:34:33 PM »

Quote from: Smossy on March 12, 2013, 02:05:26 PM

Quote from: IBspoiled on March 12, 2013, 12:55:26 PM
Quote from: IBspoiled on March 11, 2013, 12:09:05 AM
Ok here are some more picts from this week. the person in the photo is not me, and I'm glad to see he only took pictures. I removed my trail cam from this spot , to many people there.But i did leave my camera that I got cougar pictures on, just a few miles away. hope to get more.wished I had more time to hunt these cats .
Well i found out that the person in the photo is a friend so I didn't need to take my camera down
Lol just struttin his stuff on your cam, Did he know it was there or what?

Yes he knew it was there but didn't see it.I guess I had it hidden well.

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