NRA Action Alert - Tell the House Rules Committee No on HB 1588

[Hunter4Life]

Good sign that Nealey voted against the bill when it was in Judiciary.  Means he will vote against it again in Rules.  Debolt is a heavy-hitter as he is the Republican Leader in the House.  Tarleton sucked when she was on the Seattle Port Commission and she sucks as a state representative.

Here are the NRA ratings for the Rules Committe members:

Democrats Frank Chopp, Chair   58% Tami Green              67% Marco Liias               67% Marcie Maxwell         No info Jim Moeller              50% Tina Orwall              No info Eric Pettigrew          17% Chris Reykdal          No info Mary Helen Roberts  17% Cindy Ryu                No info David Sawyer           No info Larry Springer          67% Patt Sullivan            92% Gael Tarleton          No info Kevin Van De Wege   100%

Republicans
Richard DeBolt         100%
Cathy Dahlquist       100%
Susan Fagan            92%
Jeff Holy                  92%
Norn Johnson          92%
Linda Kochmar         No info
Joel Kretz                100%
Chad Magendanz      92%
Terry Nealey            92%
JT Wilcox                 92%

The percentages are the candidates poisition on gun rights.  We need to hit the Democrats that have a high rating hard.  Most of the Republicans, with the exception of Kochmar, look solid on the issue.  No info means that they didn't respond to tyhe NRA survey and are most likely anti-gun.  If Kochmar votes yes, and we get Van De Weege and Sullivan to vote no, that means we need two Democrats to vote no to kill the bill.

[Swannytheswan]

This may explain supposed support for this bill by the second amendment foundation.

http://www.examiner.com/article/firestorm-erupts-over-story-about-ccrkba-and-background-checks?CID=examiner_alerts_article

[huntrights]

Sign up on the Washington Legislature website to be able to comment on Bills online.

Here's where you can sign up:

https://washingtonleg.granicusideas.com/users/sign_in


You can leave a comment after you sign up:

https://washingtonleg.granicusideas.com/widget/agenda_items/HB%201588

This is another way to get our voices heard.  Let's use it.

Make sure you select the "OPPOSE" button on HB1588 and keep your opposition comments to 1,000 characters or less.

All Bills will have a "Comment on this bill" button on the main bill page to the right of the bill number toward the top (i.e. HB1588).

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1588&year=2013

[SGTDuffman]

Done. It is painfully obvious none of these people have never gone to a gun show, or bought a firearm. In all likelihood, most have never even seen a firearm in person, let alone held or fired one. I figured that is probably cause to educate them on how gun shows actually work in this state. I sent more or less the basic form letter but included this about the "gun shop loophole", in case they tried throw that in my face as an excuse for their support of such a law.



The so called "gun show loophole" is also nonexistent in the state of Washington. If you've ever been to a gun show in the state, you'd know this. If you've never been to a gun show in this state, I'll briefly explain how it works. Washington Arms Collectors (WAC) administers all gun shows in the state of Washington. WAC requires you to be a member of WAC in order to buy or sell firearms at the gun show. To become a member of WAC you must submit paperwork, in person and accompanied by photo ID, containing your full legal name, current address, city, state, zip, email address, telephone number, drivers license number, driver license expiration date, birth date, citizenship status, Concealed Weapons Permit # and expiration date (if applicable), occupation, employer, years employed, legislative district, congressional district, NRA member number, and processing fees. You also have to sign a sworn statement to the effect that you are not a convicted felon, drug addict, alcoholic, under indictment, or have ever been adjudicated mentally defective. With all this paperwork and these fees you must also submit proof of having a background check performed, acceptable forms of proof are: a current dealer license, current curios and relics collector license, current law enforcement ID, current concealed weapons permit, state issued firearms ownership ID, or an additional $12 fee so they can run their own background check on you.

For more information on WAC, please visit: http://www.washingtonarmscollectors.org/
or for membership requirements, visit: http://www.washingtonarmscollectors.org/members.shtml

[Wenatcheejay]

Marked

[Wazukie]

Done. It is painfully obvious none of these people have never gone to a gun show, or bought a firearm. In all likelihood, most have never even seen a firearm in person, let alone held or fired one. I figured that is probably cause to educate them on how gun shows actually work in this state. I sent more or less the basic form letter but included this about the "gun shop loophole", in case they tried throw that in my face as an excuse for their support of such a law.



The so called "gun show loophole" is also nonexistent in the state of Washington. If you've ever been to a gun show in the state, you'd know this. If you've never been to a gun show in this state, I'll briefly explain how it works. Washington Arms Collectors (WAC) administers all gun shows in the state of Washington. WAC requires you to be a member of WAC in order to buy or sell firearms at the gun show. To become a member of WAC you must submit paperwork, in person and accompanied by photo ID, containing your full legal name, current address, city, state, zip, email address, telephone number, drivers license number, driver license expiration date, birth date, citizenship status, Concealed Weapons Permit # and expiration date (if applicable), occupation, employer, years employed, legislative district, congressional district, NRA member number, and processing fees. You also have to sign a sworn statement to the effect that you are not a convicted felon, drug addict, alcoholic, under indictment, or have ever been adjudicated mentally defective. With all this paperwork and these fees you must also submit proof of having a background check performed, acceptable forms of proof are: a current dealer license, current curios and relics collector license, current law enforcement ID, current concealed weapons permit, state issued firearms ownership ID, or an additional $12 fee so they can run their own background check on you.

For more information on WAC, please visit: http://www.washingtonarmscollectors.org/
or for membership requirements, visit: http://www.washingtonarmscollectors.org/members.shtml

I think the only gun shows in this state that WAC has are the one in Puyallup and the one in Monroe.  These are the only two that WAC administers.  I could be wrong though I guess.  But you are right, at their shows in order to purchase you have to be a member and to become a member you have to have a check done.

[SGTDuffman]

Response from Rep Terry Nealey:

"Thank you for contacting me. I voted against the bill in committee and will do the same if it comes up for a vote in the floor.

Terry


Representative Terry Nealey
16th Legislative District
office: 360.786.7828 |Terry.Nealey@leg.wa.gov
Visit my Web site: www.houserepublicans.wa.gov/nealey
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[SGTDuffman]

Ya I went back and read through their stuff again. I thought they did the whole state but it sounds like just the west side. They do Puyallup, Monroe, and Enumclaw. Dunno why I thought that. Oh well. The important thing was explaining to these guys that gun shows aren't just a swap meet where anybody shows up and hands stuff off to anybody.

[coxral]

Message sent!

[huntrights]

Keep writing.  We must be relentless.  Urge others to write.

[bearpaw]

OK, another message sent, our sons and daughters are serving to protect our freedoms, I will make time to do my part here at home! 



frank.chopp@leg.wa.gov; richard.debolt@leg.wa.gov; cathy.dahlquist@leg.wa.gov; susan.fagan@leg.wa.gov; tami.green@leg.wa.gov; jeff.holy@leg.wa.gov; norm.johnson@leg.wa.gov; linda.kochmar@leg.wa.gov; joel.kretz@leg.wa.gov; marko.liias@leg.wa.gov; chad.magendanz@leg.wa.gov; marcie.maxwell@leg.wa.gov; jim.moeller@leg.wa.gov; terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov; tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov; eric.pettigrew@leg.wa.gov; chris.reykdal@leg.wa.gov; maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov; cindy.ryu@leg.wa.gov; david.sawyer@leg.wa.gov; larry.springer@leg.wa.gov; pat.sullivan@leg.wa.gov; gael.tarleton@leg.wa.gov; kevin.vandewege@leg.wa.gov; jt.wilcox@leg.wa.gov


Subject:  Please oppose HB1588 - Universal Background Checks

Dear House Rules Committee:

I am writing today to respectfully ask that you oppose House Bill 1588 - Universal Background Checks for firearm transfers. Please consider that this bill will only affect law-abiding citizens and not criminals. Criminals do not obey the laws which already exist.

This bill mandates a $20 tax for a background check.  Family members and friends would be forced to deal with licensed gun dealers or risk becoming criminals.  If dealers refuse to process private transactions then legal private firearm sales would be halted. A grandfather handing down heirloom guns would in effect turn family members into criminals. I doubt that our founding fathers envisioned this type of government.

HB1588 would create a database of privately sold handguns because ALL dealer handgun deliveries are registered with the state. This bill appears to be nothing more than a scheme to create burdens for law-abiding citizens, it would be unenforceable, and this bill will be ignored by criminals just as existing firearms laws are ignored by criminals!

Please put a stop to these unconstitutional attacks on guns and law-abiding gun owners. This law will not prevent illegal sales by criminals and could in effect turn perfectly honest families and close personal friends into criminals. Please, I urge you to enforce existing firearms laws which are already being broken rugularly by criminals.

Sincerely,

[bearpaw]

Message already back from Representative Kretz:


Thanks Dale,
This is a bad bill and we will do all we can to defeat it.
Joel

JOEL KRETZ
Republican Deputy Leader
State Representative
District 7

[huntrights]

Write-Write-Write!

And urge your family, friends, and colleagues to do the same.

[Redstar]

Looks like they have until Wednesday to move this out of the house.

Please contact your reps if you haven't already!

[CP]

It’s been a wasted effort to contact my reps:

While I am sensitive to the concerns of gun owners on many of the proposed stricter gun regulations before us this year, HB 1588 is a modest proposal that addresses the goal of keeping guns out of the hands of those who shouldn’t possess one. I voted “YES” for HB 1588 in the Judiciary Committee and will continue to support it with the hope that it eventually becomes law. You can track the progress of this legislation at http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1588&year=2013.
 
I appreciate that you took the time to share your concerns with me.
 
Sincerely,
 
Mary Helen Roberts
21st District Representative