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Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 24, 2013, 09:40:21 AMBrady fc ... I do not think anyone is calling you out ...We do not know where these birds came from you are referring too ! But in that last photo you just posted that may or may not be a wild bird ...I see some dark CHESTNUT feathers on the tail area and it is for sure one healthy lookin bird ..all we are trying to say is there is a huge difference between wild and pen raised birds ... I am not saying Easterns will not feed out of your yard but I have been around alot of turkeys in my life from east to west and I am sure a few other have too ! But I know an eastern bird rather in be in Pa or Wa they will not hang around long or let you get to close to them ...feeder or no feeder ! and the comment you made about some of us not knowing anything is a little off ...Alot of us breathe to hunt turkey which means we just do not wait until spring to think we know it all I have more money tied up in turkey hunting gear than any other gear I own and spend a couple more thousand in just looking for turkeys in gas - camping ect ...turkey hunting can be exspensive If you would stop and at least read the post before you start bashing might help. I clearly stated that the bird in the last pic was a hybrid and where did I say you didn't know anything about turkeys. You guys think your the only ones that can tell the difference between birds. hell now after all this talk about turkey I'm going to go out and shoot one of my ugly pen raised turkeys fry that sucker up and forget I even tried to share any info with you guys. I'm done
Brady fc ... I do not think anyone is calling you out ...We do not know where these birds came from you are referring too ! But in that last photo you just posted that may or may not be a wild bird ...I see some dark CHESTNUT feathers on the tail area and it is for sure one healthy lookin bird ..all we are trying to say is there is a huge difference between wild and pen raised birds ... I am not saying Easterns will not feed out of your yard but I have been around alot of turkeys in my life from east to west and I am sure a few other have too ! But I know an eastern bird rather in be in Pa or Wa they will not hang around long or let you get to close to them ...feeder or no feeder ! and the comment you made about some of us not knowing anything is a little off ...Alot of us breathe to hunt turkey which means we just do not wait until spring to think we know it all I have more money tied up in turkey hunting gear than any other gear I own and spend a couple more thousand in just looking for turkeys in gas - camping ect ...turkey hunting can be exspensive
Seen 4 birds just out of Arlington, on way fishing the north fork stilly. Few months ago
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 23, 2013, 02:05:04 PMwhen people buy these pen raised birds they are always marked Easterns - Rios - hybrids ect ....if you buy turkeys from anyone else rather than a state representive then most likely they are pen raised birds ...No matter what the seller is telling you ....just shoot them all when they walk up and eat from your hand 100% wild bird wants nothening to do with you True, wild turkeys are not purchased in a way we think of things being bought. The transaction in wild trapped birds occurs between states like in the case of Washington getting birds from Iowa. The price per bird was set based on an average tapping cost nationwide, per the different subspecies. Much easier to trap Merriam's and Rio's than Eastern's just from the difference in wintering flock sizes. Went the rocket net goes off and 100+ Merriams or Rio's are on the bait, the odds of having move birds per individual shoot is much greater than say 20 plus or minus Eastern's on bait.The sad thing is Washington used to get birds in trade for other birds or animals or for nothing. States just wanting to help out other states. Generally F&W agencies had to trap and relocate anyway and sending some out of state to help another agency was no big deal. Then the NWTF saw dollar signs and inserted themselves into the transaction. They asked the various states what it cost to trap birds, then applied those findings to an NWTF cost chart. Then they hung a carrot out to states with large numbers of birds and lots of NWTF members, in the form of dollars from the receiving NWTF state chapter coming back to them to use in their state. NWTF controls all the Superfund accounts and movement of dollars between them Administrative fees added in as well as their approval for expenditures. Hell they even charged the receiving states interest. That's when sportsmen lost big time. The amount of birds coming in was dependent on available dollars on hand or borrowed that was used to pay the trapping state. Consequently, numbers of birds available for release when WDFW was open to doing it, slowed way down.NWTF..."Not Worth The Frustration" if you ask me. Bunch of freaking used car salesmen. Too bad because the members in state are good folks and put in a lot of effort for their passion, only to have it harvested by some good ol' boys down south.
when people buy these pen raised birds they are always marked Easterns - Rios - hybrids ect ....if you buy turkeys from anyone else rather than a state representive then most likely they are pen raised birds ...No matter what the seller is telling you ....just shoot them all when they walk up and eat from your hand 100% wild bird wants nothening to do with you
