420 friendly turkey hunting partner

[BsB]

Wow, 19 pages and I think I only saw maybe five or six people who said they would hunt with the OP. There was no reason for all the other posts as they were just to criticize the OP for his question. If he had asked about the legality of turkey hunting and smoking ganja, then there is some useful info in this thread.

We are all here because of shared interests. Mostly hunting. This obviously isn't an interest most here share. There is no need to bash the OP for looking for like minded people. I'd consider it like crapping on a WTS ad. If you aren't interested don't post and move on.

I for one would hunt with the OP any day, but I don't hunt turkey. I see nothing wrong with relaxing back at camp AFTER a long day of hunting. To each their own. Remember, a drug is a drug is a drug. Doesn't matter if its prescribed or not. The government just feels a need to put each drug on a different pedestal.

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[Fl0und3rz]

The government just feels a need to put each drug on a different pedestal.

That, and the fact that the government considers what the OP may have been describing, if with a firearm, as a felony.  Apologies for your hurt sensitivities, but until the federal government changes its stance, I would not want to hunt with anyone that is contemplating or is in the act of committing a federal felony, regardless of how much I like the guy, agree with his choices, honor his service to this country, and so on.

The fact that firearm possession and marijuana use is a felony is a cold hard reality, regardless of any moral stance on the issue.

[magnanimous_j]

I think it funny how many people on this thread said they use, or dont mind the use.  Wouldnt it be funny if DOJ pulled all those with a card in and confiscated all your firearms ?   What kills me about all these people who are in favor of smoking pot in Wa and Co dont understand it is a FEDERAL OFFENSE.  I dont use the crap, and have arrested/had arrested anyone I came accross that possesed or use the crap.

I bet you're real fun at parties.

[h20hunter]

It seems that many assume simply because he wants to smoke after the hunt that there is a good possiblity that the use would be during the hunt. Do you make the same assumption about those that drink around the fire?

[CoryTDF]

I personally HATE MJ it has caused nothing but heartache and trouble for me. I tried it a few times when I was in high school and it never did much for me. I voted no for mostly selfish personal reasons. I have family members how have a serious problem with it. I believe that a person can be addicted to anything and that is the case with some of my family.

As far as hunting with a pot head that is the same as hunting with a drunk to me. The difference that i see is that more people who smoke pot seem to have a feeling that they are just as aware and alert as when they are sober. They seem to be more willing to do things while under the influence than people who have been drinking. This is not a blanket statement of course as I know lots of people who think they can do the same on alcohol. I don't agree with it either way but i do find more stoned people willing to drive and carry on with day to day than drunk people. It's not about which is worse it's about a person’s reckless decision to do things while impaired.
 No matter how awesome you think you are you cannot do things under the influence better or as good as you can while sober. Unless you’re talking about making an ass out of yourself then being impaired helps.

I would not hunt with a person who has been smoking just as I would not hunt with a person who I thought was drunk. At the camp fire after the day is dint that is a different story. I still do not like marijuana and choose to be around it as little as possible but if it's under control and away from guns and cars then that is a personal decision that I can’t argue with.

And as far as the prison talk goes, I work with inmates every day and you would be surprised how many of them still agree that it should not be legal. There are not very many people who are in prison for strictly marijuana. I have spoken to plenty of people who credit marijuana as the direct cause for their recidivism. However, the same could be said for alcohol.

[jackelope]

If you're smoking some weed around the campfire and your shotgun is in the tent, is that a felony? If your weed and your shotgun is in the tent? Just curious.

We have a couple beers around the campfire at night after hunting. When I say a couple I mean that literally...usually no more than 2 or 3. I guess my crowd has aged to the point that we don't drink while on hunting or fishing trips because we don't want it to make us feel like crap the next day and ruin the hunt. I guess what I'm saying is we're a bunch of old farts now that can't handle it.
I've never smoked pot so I can't comment on the way one feels after smoking it.

[Fl0und3rz]

If you're smoking some weed around the campfire and your shotgun is in the tent, is that a felony? If your weed and your shotgun is in the tent? Just curious

Check some of my posts up thread, I believe I covered it in this thread (look for the ATF letter).  Short version: having a medical marijuana card makes you a prohibited possessor as does being an active user.  Facts and circumstances would determine whether or not you are considered to be a user of MJ for the purpose of the GCA enforcement.

[h20hunter]

I simply don't judge someone by what they smoke or drink after the hunt is done. If they can't get up in monring, can't get through the day without, then I'll begin judging.

[bigtex]

If you're smoking some weed around the campfire and your shotgun is in the tent, is that a felony? If your weed and your shotgun is in the tent? Just curious

Check some of my posts up thread, I believe I covered it in this thread (look for the ATF letter).  Short version: having a medical marijuana card makes you a prohibited possessor as does being an active user.  Facts and circumstances would determine whether or not you are considered to be a user of MJ for the purpose of the GCA enforcement.

 
If the ATF's stance was that "medical marijuana" users were an "unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance" you can bet a non-medical user falls into the same category.

The actual federal offense is the same for felon in possession or having a DV conviction.

[Knocker of rocks]

It's sad that Big Gov is so deep into the pockets of Big Pharm that everyone continues to ignore the dangerous combination of guns, SSRI's, Ambian, Larium etc etc etc.

And everyone continues to also ignore the many who are addicted to alcohol and legally prescribed medications, which by the letter of the law are denied gun ownership.

But lets all be scared by somebody who tokes a little bowl at nite.

[BsB]

Considering Washington's recent decision to allow "recreational" use of MJ, how is camping on private property not recreational? If am no longer hunting or have a firearm physically present out in the open, I am not doing anything illegal. If a gamie wants to search my stuff, he better get a warrant as he has no proof I've committed a game infraction. Especially when I can't hunt turkey at night. If I was actively hunting with MJ in my coat pocket that's one thing.

When a search warrant is issued, the officer may only obtain evidence and search in areas that are within the scope of the search warrant. Any evidence obtained without a search warrant or that is not within the scope of the warrant will fall under the exclusionary rule. So him finding MJ in my camper does not fall within the reason he obtained a warrant and is of non significance.

I am aware, by signing my hunting license, I agreed to show my license and any game harvested when requested by WDFW, including weapons used to harvest the game. I don't have a problem with that. That however doesn't include the inside of my camper or my tent on private property. He can stand outside while I retrieve the items in question.

The Fourth Amendment applies to governmental searches and seizures. Game wardens are part of a governmental operation.
"RCW 77.15.080
Fish and wildlife officers -- Inspection authority.

Based upon articulable facts that a person is engaged in fishing or hunting activities, fish and wildlife officers have the authority to temporarily stop the person and check for valid licenses, tags, permits, stamps, or catch record cards, and to inspect all fish and wildlife in possession as well as the equipment being used to ensure compliance with the requirements of this title. "

He needs to have evidence of any hunting being performed and therefore has no reason to search, based on my camping in the woods on private property or sitting around a fire drinking or smoking. No wildlife in my possession, no search. Millions of people camp and don't hunt. Basically don't include the two (MJ and guns) together at the same time and you should be fine.

When was the last time you had BATFE roll up to your camp site?

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[birdstew]

Can we hang tree stands around were all the Cannabis plants are planted. I’m sure we could get a good shot at a Washington state record buck.

[jbendewald]

Imo I don't think I would would want to hunt with someone that is stoned.

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Been there, done that when I was young and dumb. Lucky for me and more so for my friends that a bigger, stronger AND straight and sober person disarmed me after I fired several times hitting close to others just for fun. No telling what would have happened. I am not against a little 420 but save it for after the hunt.

[Worldhunter]

Legal or not, no one should be using a weapon, or have one readily available, while impaired. 

[Cascade_fisher]

I just want to know how the smokers are doing?