420 friendly turkey hunting partner

[slayerofthesea]

people are way to judgemental over this issue. get over yourselfs okay people love to smoke pot they have for 1000s of years and will in 1000 years.  there is nothing you can do to stop it so stop judging people over it.

[Knocker of rocks]

Consider this: section 11 of ATF form 4473 asks twelve questions related to eligibility to purchase a firearm. Lying on the form is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison. ATF form 4473 specifically asks about marijuana use in section 11.e.:

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic, or any controlled substance?

If state law allows a person to use marijuana for medical reasons or recreational reasons, but federal law doesn’t, does that make the marijuana use “unlawful”?

According to a September 21, 2011 opinion letter from the ATF, the answer is “yes” –medical marijuana users are unlawful users according to federal law regardless of what state law says.

But is a lay person residing in a state where marijuana is legal required to parse the ATF form and research enough to kbnow that they are an unlawful user?  Or will they answer "no", they are not an unlawful user because dope is legal in Washington.

It is also the opinion of ATF, a long ways from a court opinion.  It's very unlikely anyone will be prosecuted under this law

[Fl0und3rz]

Consider this: section 11 of ATF form 4473 asks twelve questions related to eligibility to purchase a firearm. Lying on the form is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison. ATF form 4473 specifically asks about marijuana use in section 11.e.:

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic, or any controlled substance?

If state law allows a person to use marijuana for medical reasons or recreational reasons, but federal law doesn’t, does that make the marijuana use “unlawful”?

According to a September 21, 2011 opinion letter from the ATF, the answer is “yes” –medical marijuana users are unlawful users according to federal law regardless of what state law says.

But is a lay person residing in a state where marijuana is legal required to parse the ATF form and research enough to kbnow that they are an unlawful user?  Or will they answer "no", they are not an unlawful user because dope is legal in Washington.

It is also the opinion of ATF, a long ways from a court opinion.  It's very unlikely anyone will be prosecuted under this law

To which the federal prosecutor replies: "Ignorance of the law is no excuse, son."

[Atroxus]

Consider this: section 11 of ATF form 4473 asks twelve questions related to eligibility to purchase a firearm. Lying on the form is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison. ATF form 4473 specifically asks about marijuana use in section 11.e.:

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic, or any controlled substance?

If state law allows a person to use marijuana for medical reasons or recreational reasons, but federal law doesn’t, does that make the marijuana use “unlawful”?

According to a September 21, 2011 opinion letter from the ATF, the answer is “yes” –medical marijuana users are unlawful users according to federal law regardless of what state law says.

But is a lay person residing in a state where marijuana is legal required to parse the ATF form and research enough to kbnow that they are an unlawful user?  Or will they answer "no", they are not an unlawful user because dope is legal in Washington.

It is also the opinion of ATF, a long ways from a court opinion.  It's very unlikely anyone will be prosecuted under this law

You may be right. But all it will take is some gung-ho ATF supervisor, and someone at DoJ to back their play; then some otherwise innocent man has the choice of going into bankruptcy to mount a legal defense, or pleading out to a federal felony. I have been going back and forth on this for awhile now and changed my mind several times, personally at this time it's not worth the risk for me until/unless we get these laws officially recognized at the federal level, or federal laws change. 

[Smossy]

Marijuana has only been illegal since 1937 and thats only because it was the leading competitor to the timber industry.... It's not a recently discovered plant. Its known use dates back to 7,000 B.C., and can be used for textiles, rope, paper and much more. In fact, you could have been jailed for not growing hemp between 1763 and 1767 in the United States, and you could even pay your taxes with hemp. I wouldn't advise trying that today lol but even George Washington had Cannabis/Hemp Farms. Guess hes P.O.S Dope smoking criminal. Give it a rest.
This thread needs to be locked.   

[Smossy]

Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. Hemp fiber threatened DuPont's monopoly on the necessary chemicals for paper from trees, and patented Nylon, a synthetic fiber, the same year hemp was made illegal. Andrew Mellon, the primary financial backer of DuPont, was also the Secretary of the Treasury. He appointed Harry Anslinger, his nephew-in-law, to director of the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs, the predecessor of the Drug Enforcement Agency of today.

[h20hunter]

Yah know Smossy...I thing regardless of what is legal and what is not some folks will always believe one thing. Age, gender, heritage, experiences in life....all those things will contribute to the opinoin of okay or not regardless of legal or not. Just the way it is. If I walked into a camp to say hello and maybe swap a few lies I wouldn't care if I smelled weed or whiskey. I'd base my judgment on the actions that were represented....not by what they were consuming.

[bearpaw]

I don't smoke and have no desire to smoke pot, but I did vote to legalize it because I think our prisons are full of people that I don't think really belong there and I think full legalization would actally reduce crime, but that's just my opinion which means little.

We left this topic active because when you sort through all the opinions there are posts made with important info regarding the federal laws surrounding marijauna use and firearms that all hunters and gun owners should know in order to avoid trouble and loss of rights.

[Smossy]

Yah know Smossy...I thing regardless of what is legal and what is not some folks will always believe one thing. Age, gender, heritage, experiences in life....all those things will contribute to the opinoin of okay or not regardless of legal or not. Just the way it is. If I walked into a camp to say hello and maybe swap a few lies I wouldn't care if I smelled weed or whiskey. I'd base my judgment on the actions that were represented....not by what they were consuming.

Unless it was with needles, hot spoons, or broken bubble shaped glass with burnt ends..... lol Otherwise Im right with you man.

[h20hunter]

Agreed.....

[Smossy]

I don't smoke and have no desire to smoke pot, but I did vote to legalize it because I think our prisons are full of people that I don't think really belong there and I think full legalization would actally reduce crime, but that's just my opinion which means little.

We left this topic active because when you sort through all the opinions there are posts made with important info regarding the federal laws surrounding marijauna use and firearms that all hunters and gun owners should know in order to avoid trouble and loss of rights.

Yeah your right yet again. People just keep digging deeper and deeper though. I dont think as long as people keep it at theyre camp everything should be perfectly fine. Smoking a doobie then picking up a gun though immedietly after, hmm  and I do agree, Ive personally met too many people during my incarceration who were doing years for simple possession charges. Its ridiculous. When ALOT of rapists get off with a slap on the wrist and are told "dont do it again, make sure you register" like wtf? Just makes no sense to me the states priorities.

[fillthefreezer]

I think that smoking weed is better then drinking and what if he is just looking for a guy who dosent care if he does while they are hunting. I have a friend who is like that. I partake some times not alot i could pass a ua. but remember saftey first, then team work  :-)

isnt anyone gonna jump him for the drug dealer's quote?

[Knocker of rocks]

This thread needs to be locked.   

This thread has been by and large civil.  There is no reason to lock it.  If you don't like it, don't participate.

KOR, non dope smoker since 1992.

[Smossy]

I think that smoking weed is better then drinking and what if he is just looking for a guy who dosent care if he does while they are hunting. I have a friend who is like that. I partake some times not alot i could pass a ua. but remember saftey first, then team work  :-)

isnt anyone gonna jump him for the drug dealer's quote?

Drug dealer?

[Smossy]

This thread needs to be locked.   

This thread has been by and large civil.  There is no reason to lock it.  If you don't like it, don't participate.

KOR, non dope smoker since 1992.

Smossy = Retired Medical Patient