Author Topic: Blacktail Trophy Tactics II (Read 16673 times)

Pappy · « **on:** March 06, 2013, 01:38:05 PM »

So I was going to order Boyd Iverson's Blacktail Trophy Tactics II, but then read a review on Amazon that stopped me. The reviewer said that it's almost all tree-stand hunting, and only one chapter on still hunting. I plan on still hunting - will this book be good for me? Or should I look for something else?

wildmanoutdoors · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2013, 01:42:19 PM »

The book rocks!
Tree stand or not you wont be able to put it down. There is sooooo much more info in there than tree stands. Because figureing out were to put your treestand is the key to success!!!!

I really thought the first book was better though. And its easy to find used on Amazon. I was able to find an autographed copy for 7 bucks from a book store in Portland.

BowForElk · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2013, 02:54:22 PM »

I literally just ordered both books on amazon last night. I have Trophy Blacktails by Scott Haugen which is alright but I hear about Boyd Iversons books a lot more. I paid 5.55 used for the first books and 17 something used for the second book.

Pappy · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2013, 03:06:27 PM »

alright cool - i'll pick it up. thanks guys

JakeLand · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:25:48 PM »

that book will teach tell you more about Blacktails and there HABITS which will increase your odds of getting that mature buck than any other resourse other than time in the woods!!!!! great book

jrebel · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:30:25 PM »

One of my favorite reads for sure. Loved it

Turner89 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:46:57 PM »

Best blacktail book out there. I refer back to it all the time.

Blacktail99 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2013, 07:35:34 PM »

GREAT BOOK HAVE READ IT BEFORE THE SEASON EVERY YEAR YOU WILL FIND MORE INFO THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SKIMMED OVER !!

bear hunter · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2013, 07:41:05 PM »

I have both books. I love the first one. The 2nd ones ok.

bmccalister · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:05:19 PM »

I have both books and find both to be equally informative. Both books re-enforce each other and both offer information not covered in detail in the other book. I would suggest they are both books a must read for every blacktail hunter.

tony04 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:24:29 PM »

Quote from: Pappy on March 06, 2013, 01:38:05 PM

So I was going to order Boyd Iverson's Blacktail Trophy Tactics II, but then read a review on Amazon that stopped me. The reviewer said that it's almost all tree-stand hunting, and only one chapter on still hunting. I plan on still hunting - will this book be good for me? Or should I look for something else?

correct me if im wrong, i think there is only one chapter on tree stand hunting... He mainly focuses on still hunting. I havent read it in a year or two.

BowForElk · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2013, 09:55:01 PM »

Got both my books in the mail today! Started reading the first one and it did note that he is a still hunter.

pope · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2013, 10:35:55 PM »

In Trophy Tactics II, there is one segment on tree stand placement/hunting and one chapter on still hunting. I don't recall reading anything about other methods, whereas Haugen's book discusses ground blinds, party drives and everything in between. While Iverson's book primarily focuses on two hunting strategies, the review you mention misrepresents the spirit, focus and totality of this book. Trophy Tactics II explores scouting, hunting strategies, maps and internet study, controlling human odors, the importance of wind direction for both hunting strategies and analyzing deer behavior, ballistics, ethics, and even includes an explanation of scoring trophy racks. Iverson relates that he is a still hunter at heart, but subsequent to his focus on trophy bucks, he has employed tree stands almost exclusively. Haugen's book is worth reading, but Iverson's book is PACKED with information. I'll read a paragraph, then go back and read it twice again, reflecting on the area I'm currently scouting.

Eli346 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2013, 04:19:41 AM »

Good books! Worth a read and a refresher right before the season starts. I marked a lot of the spots with the pertinent info in it as he can get a little too informative at times but it's all good.

grundy53 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2013, 04:56:47 AM »

I read them before hunting season every year.

Pappy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2013, 07:55:00 AM »

Thanks for the extra info, guys. I'll be sure to pick it up soon!

BowForElk · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2013, 09:35:10 AM »

Quote from: pope on March 11, 2013, 10:35:55 PM

In Trophy Tactics II, there is one segment on tree stand placement/hunting and one chapter on still hunting. I don't recall reading anything about other methods, whereas Haugen's book discusses ground blinds, party drives and everything in between. While Iverson's book primarily focuses on two hunting strategies, the review you mention misrepresents the spirit, focus and totality of this book. Trophy Tactics II explores scouting, hunting strategies, maps and internet study, controlling human odors, the importance of wind direction for both hunting strategies and analyzing deer behavior, ballistics, ethics, and even includes an explanation of scoring trophy racks. Iverson relates that he is a still hunter at heart, but subsequent to his focus on trophy bucks, he has employed tree stands almost exclusively. Haugen's book is worth reading, but Iverson's book is PACKED with information. I'll read a paragraph, then go back and read it twice again, reflecting on the area I'm currently scouting.

Im only half done with Iversons first book and IMO its already better then Haugen's. It literally is packed with information. For some reason I get so hung up on the never ending detail of Scots classification of blacktail bucks. Whether they be High Country Bucks, Cascade Bucks, Lowland Bucks, Coastal Bucks, etc.... Im sorry but to me, a blacktail is a blacktail! While reading it, I found myself saying "Shut up already and get on with it!" whereas Boyds book is pretty cut and dry. No BS at least not yet!

ronin026 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2020, 08:21:07 PM »

Sorry to necro a dead thread, but been hearing a lot about this book and there havent been any available on amazon or any major book seller. Anyone have this book and willing to part with it? Happy to pay shipping and a decent price(its almost $60 on Amazon)

mikelonsford · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2020, 08:25:38 PM »

Have you checked Sportco in Fife? They used to always have copies of it on their bookshelf.

fishnfur · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2020, 10:13:34 PM »

I've got to throw this one out there. This is a better book for beginner Blacktail hunters who may not have the desire to kill the biggest deer in the woods, but would be happy to just have a chance to see and get a shot on a buck. This is by far a more scientific based book than Haugen. It has really everything you need to know to get out in the woods and get hunting, and has a better discussion of finding genetically gifted deer than either of the other two books. He discusses seasonal browse sources, still hunting, hunting cuts, and other situations such as field dressing and transporting deer out of the woods.
It was written by L. Terkla, whom was the Dean of the OHSU/Dental School in Portland during the early '80s while I was there. I only met him once in four years and had not clue that he was a Blacktail Hunter, nor that wrote a deer hunting book - until I started hunting ten years ago. Small world. I got my used copy for $1.00 nine years ago. Now some A.H. is trying to sell one on Amazon for $84!

https://www.amazon.com/Hunting-Black-Tailed-Deer-Oregon-Perspective/dp/1878175181/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=louis+terkla&qid=1602392281&s=books&sr=1-1

fordman · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2020, 10:37:36 PM »

I bought the same book 20 plus years ago. Great book. Remember, everything is only worth what so.eone is willing to pay for it.

dilleytech · « **Reply #21 on:** October 11, 2020, 11:36:18 AM »

The first version sells for between 50-200$ is it a collectors or something?

TheStovePipeKid · « **Reply #22 on:** October 11, 2020, 12:43:21 PM »

I got an autographed copy from an old neighbor of his off eBay for way less then $50. Keep your eyes peeled and one will turn up for a reasonable price. Great book for taking trophies or just becoming a better deer hunter.

WapitiTalk1 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 11, 2020, 01:00:20 PM »

Sent u a pm. Found one for you

Wanttohuntmore · « **Reply #24 on:** October 11, 2020, 05:22:01 PM »

I wouldn't mind reading Trophy Tactics 1. I've killed dozens but still need to know more!!! It is surprising what you can learn from books. I learned elk calling techniques from some books which paid off.

ronin026 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 11, 2020, 09:43:27 PM »

Quote from: mikelonsford on October 10, 2020, 08:25:38 PM

Have you checked Sportco in Fife? They used to always have copies of it on their bookshelf.

I haven't been there, but I did check on their website and no luck.

Wapititalk, I checked PM's and don't have anything. If anyone has one they'd part with happy to buy it. But it's damn near $50 on Amazon right now.

skagitsteel · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2020, 09:25:23 AM »

It's a great book, the best I've read on overall blacktail habits and how to understand them. Pay attention to what he says about the wind, I have found it to be especially true on bucks that are more mature, but not necessarily true on younger bucks and does. Another point I might make is I have not found that bucks truly have one 'core area', they actually wander around and move more than most people think, consistently inconsistent. Terrain, hunting pressure and predators all impact the size of a buck's home range.

fishnfur · « **Reply #27 on:** October 12, 2020, 09:57:56 AM »

PM sent to OP.

screedler · « **Reply #28 on:** October 12, 2020, 05:53:06 PM »

So I have the first edition of this Blacktail Trophy Tactics book and was thinking recently... Is it legal to produce an Audio book version of this???

With this book being relatively rare and obscure it could benefit the hunting community to produce it as an audio book for consumption by future generations, at least with this being out of print like it has been... It's been interesting to observe the price fluctuations. A month ago I bought a copy of the first edition for a friend who just got his hunting license for the first time as a gift, and it only cost me $9 on thrift books. Seems that the price really spikes during the modern firearm season.

I have done some voice over work before and might just do this on my own volition in my home studio... Probably should contact a copywrite lawyer before considering any kind of publishing though. Thoughts?

fishnfur · « **Reply #29 on:** October 12, 2020, 07:30:14 PM »

Yeah, I think consulting a lawyer might be smart. I can't remember if the book is out of print, but either way, the heirs of the estate of B. Iverson likely have legal rights to the content. I'm surprised that the book isn't more available. Quite obviously, there is still a market for it.

Gobble · « **Reply #30 on:** October 12, 2020, 07:32:19 PM »

Quote from: fishnfur on October 12, 2020, 07:30:14 PM

Yeah, I think consulting a lawyer might be smart. I can't remember if the book is out of print, but either way, the heirs of the estate of B. Iverson likely have legal rights to the content. I'm surprised that the book isn't more available. Quite obviously, there is still a market for it.

I used to work with with the authors brother, I believe he has passed away a few years ago

Gobble · « **Reply #31 on:** October 12, 2020, 07:35:28 PM »

He died in 2015

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/registerguard/obituary.aspx?n=boyd-alban-iverson&pid=176186913

fishnfur · « **Reply #32 on:** October 13, 2020, 01:49:10 PM »

Just in case someone is still looking for the book to purchase: https://www.ebay.com/p/1638528

VicVox72 · « **Reply #33 on:** November 08, 2023, 10:28:26 PM »

Does anyone here who managed to snag either vol 1 or 2 up when it wasn't out of print yet want to let go for it for a reasonable price?

Looks like cheapest on thriftbook is $70 :'(

IslandHunter · « **Reply #34 on:** November 09, 2023, 09:06:52 AM »

Asked my wife for this book for Christmas last year. She got it for me then I opened it and it was signed with someone's name on it. I was surprised because I thought it was new. I asked her about it and she said she got it off ebay and it was used. Asked how much it cost her and she said $124.00 I had no idea these were going for so much, didn't realize until after that they only print a limited amount. Wife didn't batt an eye since this is the only book I have ever asked for.

I would say what ever the price is it is worth it. So much good information in this book. I plan to keep it forever and pass it down to my kids when I am done with it.

BLH69 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 09, 2023, 10:27:42 AM »

I have 1 and 2. I read them while sitting during deer season. i have taken several big Blackies because of it!

JDHasty · « **Reply #36 on:** November 09, 2023, 12:33:51 PM »

When I wake up in the middle of the night to go see a man about a horse and can't get back to sleep one of the things I do is grab my iPad and check to see if there are any good deals on these books. If there are any that are a particularly good deal I frequently post a note and link in the Campfire section. I have posted a few recently. If someone checks first thing in the morning they usually snag it. They don't last long though.

I've got a couple hard bound copies and try and keep six or eight paper backs on hand to give away. I still find a few here and there at garage sales, estate sales and junk shops.

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