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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2013, 09:06:39 PM »
What is the length of these swim throughs.

I believe his traps are 4 feet long.
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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2013, 10:02:16 PM »
Im assuming bruce that you used 1/4" cold rolled for frame work so i am wondering what size triggers/releases i need to order for that diameter i.e 110,220 or 330 thanks again boss you guys and this forum is a huge help for us beginners. Ps i moved one of my gulliteen cages 12"x15"x36" into a beaver run and there was one in it some how it got back out through the door but he worked that cage over pretty good.

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2013, 11:48:00 PM »
Yes 4' long and yes on the 1/4" round stock. I would order cold rolled for all the parts but the 1/4" round you use on the trigger assembly must be cold rolled or it will bend.  Order the 220 trigger but like I mentioned you will need to replace the trigger wires. Stock are not long enough.

If you make them more then 12" wide the trigger will work on the door but I am not 100% happy with it. I have it in my mind for a redesign next summer. Actually a new trap but nothing to share yet.
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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 05:16:18 AM »
A pellet gun will work on coon for sure. I've dispatched a ton if them without incident.

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2013, 08:51:27 AM »
I don't know if air rifles would be legal or not, but I would suggest a 22 rifle with CB's.

They are real quiet, probably quiter than an air rifle, and a lot more punch.

I agree..
That's a better idea than an air rifle. or a garbage can full of water is also an approved method which has been approved by the US Veterinarians association. Although I have used this method I dont like it. (PS I used it once).

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2013, 10:23:18 AM »
I would love to use a 22 rifle but again a firearm and any amunition for a firearm at this time is off the table for me, six years ago i plead guilty to a dv charge through the advice of a rookie public defender that now i believe must have been gun control advocate she never mentioned to me that after being charged with a dv that an individual can never have their right restored on a federal level. I went to get them restored and my lawyer told me i could restore them on a state level but at this point there is no process in which to appeal it on a federal level. I never would have plead guilty knowing what i know now it was just one of those cases where a couple gets into a heated argument and can honestly say they have never got into an argument with there wife any how cops got called and naturaly you get the well cops were called we have to take someone in and the puplic defender and judge told me before i plead guilty that they were only suspended for two years they never mentioned the whole federal level b.s. i was young and scared as i had never been into trouble before and hevent since but that public defender talked me into, so thats where i sit on the use of a firearm cant do it.

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2013, 11:31:57 AM »
Sounds like you got bad legal advice all the way around. After three years you are eligible to have your gun rights restored, period. The lawyer you talked to must have also been anti-gun or anti-hunting, or probably both.

This is the law that applies: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.040

There is an attorney on this site, actually more than one, but I would PM "Wader." He is an attorney out of Centralia. He doesn't post on here a lot, but I'm sure he would be willing to at least verify that you are eligible for full restoration of your gun rights.

This is his profile:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1843

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2013, 11:43:56 AM »
Sounds like you got bad legal advice all the way around. After three years you are eligible to have your gun rights restored, period. The lawyer you talked to must have also been anti-gun or anti-hunting, or probably both.

This is the law that applies: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.040

Actually the lawyer was correct in terms of federal laws. On a state level yes you can get your rights restored, but federally under the "Lautenberg Amendment" (officially known as the "Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban") anybody convicted of a misdemeanor DV crime loses their right to possess firearms for life, there is no restoring rights under this law.

The law was enacted in 1996 and was retroactive, there were military members and law enforcement officers who had DV convictions from their younger times who could no longer possess firearms.

http://www.washrecord.com/MIsd%20DV%20&%20Civil%20Rights.htm
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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2013, 12:23:53 PM »
what is the legal defination of in posession of or in control of a firearm say my friend is deer hunting can i ride around with or would that put in control of a firearm.

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2013, 04:12:59 PM »
The lawyer you talked to must have also been anti-gun or anti-hunting, or probably both.

Geez Bobcat jumping the gun a little on the anti-hunter/gun?  :chuckle:

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2013, 04:13:45 PM »
what is the legal defination of in posession of or in control of a firearm say my friend is deer hunting can i ride around with or would that put in control of a firearm.

There is no legal definition, it's all been established through case law. Just don't be alone with the gun.

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2013, 07:09:45 PM »
There are  other legal methods of dispatch that do not involve a firearm. PM me if you want to talk about them.
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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2013, 07:28:16 PM »
Sounds like you got bad legal advice all the way around. After three years you are eligible to have your gun rights restored, period. The lawyer you talked to must have also been anti-gun or anti-hunting, or probably both.

This is the law that applies: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.040

There is an attorney on this site, actually more than one, but I would PM "Wader." He is an attorney out of Centralia. He doesn't post on here a lot, but I'm sure he would be willing to at least verify that you are eligible for full restoration of your gun rights.

This is his profile:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1843
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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2013, 08:51:15 PM »
Ive used a pellet gun numerous times for raccoons, and a couple pretty good sized ones. My pellet gun only shoots 1000 fps and it drops them nice and clean. :tup: :tup: :tup:

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Re: Dispatching an animal caught in a cage trap?
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2013, 06:06:54 AM »
http://www.adventuresinairguns.com/big-game-c-3.html?osCsid=fb4c97fc25a8b3c782f1edeef35a0664
A high power .25 cal airgun is pretty similar power to a standard .22 LR.  The Korean .25 has adjustable power from 600-1000 fps.
I would be looking real hard at the one of big bores.  A .45 slinging them at 600 fps would be hard on your traps  :chuckle:
Also note, the korean airguns are really loud.

 


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