Bass and Walleye Rule change on the Columbia and tributaries-CRAZY

[WSU]

Also, it isn't like bass are going to be wiped out.  We won't be successful in removing them from the snake, columbia, and tribs.  And, even if we were, there are hundreds of other places to fish for bass where they don't cause so much harm to our native fish populations.

[JLS]

Also, it isn't like bass are going to be wiped out.  We won't be successful in removing them from the snake, columbia, and tribs.  And, even if we were, there are hundreds of other places to fish for bass where they don't cause so much harm to our native fish populations.

 

About as likely as wolves being wiped out in the Northern Rockies by extremely liberal hunting seasons.

[lokidog]

They would be easier to manage if we all agreed they were non-native. They are not called "American" tern

We could all agree the moon is made of cheese, but it doesn't make it so.        Good thing the Mexicans and Central Americans don't feel that way about all the American ducks that migrate down there.   

[plugger]

There are hundreds of other rivers in this state that have depressed runs, and they don't have walleye, bass, catfish, squawfish or bird problems. They do however have net problems. When I started fishing in the mid 70,s every river was chucked full of fish on the OP. Then the tribes started netting, Every year more nets, every year, less fish. You could float the solduc in march and see hundreds of steelhead on beds, now zip. They all but wiped out the Elwha summer kings, and they were big but they killed them all netting coho,s and left them to rot on the bank because they were to nasty to make a buck off of. Now there are spring runs but the funny thing is, there were no spring runs in there until they started planting them. They even opened it in the early 80's for a couple years. There protecting runs that wernt even present and the strain did not come from those rivers. The Solduc falls in that category also.

[Sniper101]

I don't understand why people are against addressing one of the problems simply because other problems exist.  I'm sure nobody manages their own life that way.

I agree.  I'm always amazed that sportmen have not been able to band togherte to gewt somehting done on fish predators in general. Sealions, cornmerants, megansers ect.  If you want to get traction you must START somewhere and move forward...   It seems the only options that seem left ot us is fighting against ourselves when there are so many things that COULD be done that 99% of uscould get behind. 

I don't agree.  Why quit managing a few species?  Obviously, it's the cheap, easy way out...   Much like a lot of the American attitude these days I see though.  You mention "banding together" as sportsman......and this is what you call banding together?  Opening of species to kill as many as you can without limits, while others practice catch and release to provide an opportunity for others and our younger generation.........   Pathetic at best is what it is.

:yeah:couldnt agree more.

[Sniper101]

Also, it isn't like bass are going to be wiped out.  We won't be successful in removing them from the snake, columbia, and tribs.  And, even if we were, there are hundreds of other places to fish for bass where they don't cause so much harm to our native fish populations.

they dont cause THAT much harm and youre right, they wont be wiped out, all the quality fish will and the "snake, columbia and tribs" have the best smallmouth bass fishing in the west, think about everyone.

[Mr Mykiss]

6.1#

[Sniper101]

the ones in my profile are all around 4lbs and we released one over 6 and two 5s that day.....yah not a bad day lol

[Mr Mykiss]

the ones in my profile are all around 4lbs and we released one over 6 and two 5s that day.....yah not a bad day lol

Not trying to measure there jack...

[WSU]

Also, it isn't like bass are going to be wiped out.  We won't be successful in removing them from the snake, columbia, and tribs.  And, even if we were, there are hundreds of other places to fish for bass where they don't cause so much harm to our native fish populations.

they dont cause THAT much harm and youre right, they wont be wiped out, all the quality fish will and the "snake, columbia and tribs" have the best smallmouth bass fishing in the west, think about everyone.

Why do you say they don't cause that much harm?  How much harm do they cause?

[TommyH]

I love to catch them..... but salmon takes the number one spot for me. And the ESA.
Manage them where needed to reduce numbers where needed, but I wouldn't mind a great place to go get some small mouth.

[Special T]

Sniper and MtnMuley I think you guys are missing my point. There has NOT been management of Cornmerants, or sealions, and VERY little of Mergansers. Since there has been NO shooting of cornmerants for 40 years and not very many people shoot Megansers, how would liberizing the season be bad? Do you think you need to see more of them on the lakes and rivers?

When i say sportmen should "band together" I mean CHOOSE issues that MOST of us can get behind...

I don't fish this state anymore, so if you want to keep protecting Cornmerants, Mergansers, and Sealions then its not really gona hurt me. 

[MtnMuley]

Up the limits, that's fine, but to pull all restrictions on harvest is bad management in my opinion as a sportsman.  Granted, few know techniques and tactics to really hurt their populations severely, but the fact that anybody can catch as many as they want reguardless of size whenever they want, isn't good fisheries management.

[Kola16]

There are plenty of lakes and rivers that have bass and walleye in them without salmon/steelhead. (Oh and I might add that they do not even belong in many of them.) We do not have plenty of salmon or steelhead (which actually belong). Why would some want to let a invasive species do any amount of harm to a highly prized native species?

[plugger]

Because bass and walleye are highly prized by the people that fish them. Believe it or not where as passionate about them as you are salmon