Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.

[Curly]

I've got a moron in the family....... Shared this one.....


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/992/794/261/

 Should I sign as I.P. Freely?

I read some of the comments from those people signing that petition.........what a bunch of 

[Wenatcheejay]

Folks, at the recent Colville meeting the WDFW put it all in perspective, they explained that there is a lot of passion on both sides of the wolf issue and that there is a lot of money.

HELLO.... Hunters, ranchers, and rural residents are not pouring in lots of money for wolves, no, the WDFW has sold out to the wolf lovers who are pouring in the money for wolves. They fell victim to the dollars and the disney wolf story the same way IDFG and MFWP did.

My guess is that in the end, this wolf money will dry up and hunters dollars will dissipate when the herds have been reduced which is exactly how it has played out in ID & MT, the WDFW and the people of WA will be left with a landscape full of wolves and no more big easy dollars for WDFW.

Folks, we are all watching 100 years of responsible wildlife management being thrown right out the window.

You are 100% correct bearpaw. This mismanagement is willful and intentional. WWDFW Western Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife does not represent your part of Washington, they dictate to it. Much in the same way that people from the Western Side tell you what is happing in your backyard. They will distroy your way of life, distroy your income, and ability to provide for your family as much as possible. They pass regulation that does not serve your interests but lines their pockets. 100 years of management distroyed is the goal, always was.

[JakeLand]

loose lips sink ships and what happens in the  woods (or front porch) gets burried deep in the ground hope your heeler makes it through sounds like a great dog and keep us posted on her recovery please

[wolfbait]

Will wolves impact the Methow Valley, 4/9/12 the bottom of page 31, http://www.methownet.com/bulletinboard.html

"I know of two wolf attacks since Febuary on people's pets within a few miles of Twisp, the first one was reported to WDFW. Their response was: That doesn't sound like a wolf to us. The second one was reported to the Okanogan county sheriff. Anyone who has a wolf problem, Report it to the Okanogan County Sheriff!  # 1 You will get an answer to your problem and # 2 It will be recorded".

I wonder if WDFW remembers the wolf that ran a house cat up the porch, the owner was within a few feet of the wolf. He called WDFW, they came out and took pictures of the wolf tracks the next morning, and once again their reply was "that doesn't sound like a wolf to us".

Not long after that attack, a wolf jumped a mans dog in his front yard, the owner saw the attack. This attack was reported to the Okanogan County sheriff. Quite sure WDFW was also informed.

How many wolf attacks have WDFW failed to imform the people of WA of?

In the last seven years there have been several wolf/pet attacks reported to WDFW just in the Methow Valley, why don't these attacks show up on WDFW's Dangerous Wildlife Incidents?

 I guess if WDFW doesn't report wolf attacks they don't have to worry about explaining why it wasn't an attack.



Dangerous Wildlife Incidents in Washington
A map of recent wolf observations submitted via WDFW's online wolf reporting form is available here.

July 31, 2010 – Tonasket, Okanogan County (Wolf)
May 12, 2010 – Tonasket, Okanogan County (Wolf)
June 20, 2011 – Tonasket, Okanogan County (Wolf
August 12, 2012 – Carlton, Okanogan County (Wolf)
May 19, 2012 – Carlton, Okanogan County (Wolf)
February 16, 2012 – Tonasket, Okanogan County (Wolf)
January 29, 2012 – Tonasket, Okanogan County (Wolf)


March 10, 2013 – Twisp, Okanogan County (Wolf)
WDFW Danerous Animal Reports http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/dangerous/reports/index.php?species=3&county=18&year=2010


I wonder if this wolf attack was also reported to WDFW?

First off, I am not a "Wolf Hate Monger" by any means.
Two weeks ago while walking with my wife on the Twisp Carlton Hwy 3 /1/2 miles north of Carlton, a Black Wolf crossed the Highway in the pursuit of a Whitetail Doe, not more than 70 Yards in front of us.  I was unable to get my I-Phone Camera out in time to get a photo, but I walked up the hillside in the snow and got a clear and excellent picture of its track. I reported this to my neighbor who was out pruning his apply trees closeby, and he stated to us that a Black Wolf attached his Pit Bull Female in Nov. in his yard, and it took 12 stiches in the shoulder area to close the wound by a local Vet.  His son fired a shotgun into the air and the Wolf ran away.  We live near the Lookout Mtn Pack, and this is the 2nd Wolf we have seen out hiking in two years.
 
The people of WA need to hold WDFW accountable!

[Special T]

Sick'em Wolfbait... You have obviously done your home work. Posting articles on wolf attacks over the years,and keeping tabs on the happenings despite the nay sayers. Keep up the good work, and be sure to gloat here  when info is released in COURT so some of us can applaud your efforts. 

[Sawbuck]

Sick'em Wolfbait... You have obviously done your home work. Posting articles on wolf attacks over the years,and keeping tabs on the happenings despite the nay sayers. Keep up the good work, and be sure to gloat here  when info is released in COURT so some of us can applaud your efforts. 

[snowpack]

Can you request all their wolf documents using FOIA?  Though, from the reputation of WDFW bios they've probably been shredded and if not wouldn't cough them up under court order.  Slimy weasels.

[AspenBud]

Can you request all their wolf documents using FOIA?  Though, from the reputation of WDFW bios they've probably been shredded and if not wouldn't cough them up under court order.  Slimy weasels.

As long as you can prove it's not being requested for malicious intent (like that newspaper out east getting concealed carry holders addresses and publishing them) I would think FOIA can be used here. It's all public information as long as you're willing to file the paperwork to get it. That doesn't mean they might not try to lawyer up before you can get it, but from e-mail to wolves, it's public information that can be requested.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Sick'em Wolfbait... You have obviously done your home work. Posting articles on wolf attacks over the years,and keeping tabs on the happenings despite the nay sayers. Keep up the good work, and be sure to gloat here  when info is released in COURT so some of us can applaud your efforts. 

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[wolfbait]

WDFW Can’t Pay For Injuries To Dog Attacked By Wolf
By Andy Walgamott, on March 15th, 2013

State law is barring WDFW from paying the vet bill for a dog that was attacked by a wolf on Sunday morning in the Methow Valley.

However, in the future, pet owners could be reimbursed if their animals are injured when they tangle with wolves under a bill that passed the state Senate earlier this week.

The bills for Shelby, the Siberian husky-wolf hybrid, have rung up at least $289 for John Stevie and his family, and will probably be more. The dog suffered injuries to her face, neck and ears.

After WDFW determined it was indeed a wolf attack, based on interviews with Stevie and his partner and evidence at the scene, state wolf manager Donny Martorello looked into compensation for them.

“We were trying to find a way,” says Madonna Luers, a spokeswoman for the agency, this morning. “We were not able to.”

She points to RCW 77.36.110 which doesn’t allow it because animals like Shelby are not considered commercial livestock.

The state wolf management plan does include compensation for herding or guarding dogs injured by wolves, but those have to be associated with livestock operations, like the Martinez sheep company dog that was worked over by the Teanaway Pack in 2011. WDFW paid its vet bill, estimated in the $300 to $500 range.

The plan doesn’t include hybrid dogs or domestic pets, Luers said, even ones that are guarding homes in the countryside.

Wisconsin’s wolf plan does allow that, WDFW’s management document says.

By an unusual coincidence, the attack came just two days after the state Senate passed a bill that  “Requires that rules established by the fish and wildlife commission allow an owner, the owner’s immediate family member, the agent of an owner, or the owner’s documented employee to kill a gray wolf that is attacking or poses an immediate threat of physical harm to livestock or other domestic animals regardless of its state classification and without the need for a permit or other form of permission.,” according to a bill digest for SB 5187. It is now in the House where it will have a hearing on March 20 before the Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee.

Stevie lives below McClure Mountain south of Twisp, in an area frequented by many animals. He said he keeps the hybrids for protection.

The area is part of the Lookout Pack territory, and state officials point out there are likely many more wolves than they know about dispersing across the countryside. Martorello said yesterday afternoon that another GPS-collared Smackout male had wandered 100 miles into Canada. http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2013/03/15/wdfw-cant-pay-for-injuries-to-dog-attacked-by-wolf/




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"BY AN UNUSUAL COINCIDENCE???, the attack came just two days after the state Senate passed a bill that  “Requires that rules established by the fish and wildlife commission allow an owner, the owner’s immediate family member, the agent of an owner, or the owner’s documented employee to kill a gray wolf that is attacking or poses an immediate threat of physical harm to livestock or other domestic animals regardless of its state classification and without the need for a permit or other form of permission.,” according to a bill digest for SB 5187. It is now in the House where it will have a hearing on March 20 before the Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee".
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Not unusual at all Andy, in the last two years there have been four wolf attacks on dogs within a few miles of the same area that Shelby was attack, WDFW just refuse to report these attacks. Why do you suppose that is? Out of sight out of mind in WDFW's eyes and to hell with the people and their pets who have to deal with an out of control wolf pupulation in the Methow Valley.

Did anyone see the story of the rancher who believes wolves were into his cattle last fall, his cows chased his herding dogs, just like has happened in other states where wolves are killing cattle. This rancher said he beleives he lost two calves to wolves last year. I talk to this same rancher in 2011, he lost a calf close to home that year and beleived it was wolves. He told me he had seen the cow and calf the night before and the next morning all that was left was a calf head and a wild-eyed cow. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,120283.0.html

What will it take to bring honesty back into WDFW? Is protecting wolves that have made liars out of the USFWS, and those who promote them more inportant then other wildlife, livestock, pets and people?


Please call or e-mail every Washington State Representative and urge them to pass SB 5187.

Copy and paste these addresses to your Cc; or Bcc;

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[Elkaholic daWg]

 Wolfbait....it would be good if you could remove the  's  and   ;s    from that list. took me over an hour to fix it so my e mail would accept and send it on the other subject Friday, but I guess now I can go to the "sent messages" and change the content.....

[mulehunter]

Just let u know what they are up to.

Dear Scott,

Thank you for taking the time to contact our office to voice your support of Senate Bill 5187, protecting domestic animals against gray wolf attacks. This bill is currently scheduled for a public hearing in the House Committee on Agriculture & Natural Resources at 8am on March 20. I have passed along your message to Speaker Chopp.

Thank you,

Jennifer Johnson
House Democratic Caucus
Legislative Assistant, House Democratic Leadership

[wolfbait]

Wolfbait....it would be good if you could remove the  's  and   ;s    from that list. took me over an hour to fix it so my e mail would accept and send it on the other subject Friday, but I guess now I can go to the "sent messages" and change the content.....

 

Would you fix that for me Elkaholic daWg, Thanks 

[WAcoyotehunter]

Wolves also move because they breed. New packs form in new areas because they are very territorial. A new pack forms and has to move to a new area. 2 packs won't survive in the same place. I'd bet that's the top reason they're expanding their range in Washington. That Conservation NW documentary with Fitkin that was on the Discovery channel showed that alpha female from the methow move to the teanaway and form a new pack. The wolves in the blues came from Oregon.

Actually jack, that has also been proven to be false. In Idaho they have discovered that small wolf packs will come together and hunt as one huge pack, these major wolf packs have been known to be 43 wolves strong.

17 years of Alberta wolves in ID, MT and Wyoming, and the wolves have made liars out of the USFWS and everyone else who promoted them, including David Mech who admiited it not too long ago.

You say that these packs drive others out, well here in the Methow Valley we now have five wolf packs, in 2010 we were sure we had seven, that would be seven with pups. So I would have to say thats just one more lie, that the wolves have proven, to be a lie..

 Remember the lie that only the mommy and daddy wolves breed? That also was proven to be a lie.

Big wolf packs also break into smaller groups and hunt regularly.  They are not always together.  You guys seeing wolves in different areas within the same home range doesn't necessarily mean that there are multiple packs. 

Only "mommy and daddy" wolves do breed.  What are you talking about?

BTW- welcome back.  how did that super secret legal battle go?  Last we talked, you are on the verge of proving that the WDFW released wolves from a UPS truck.  How did that turn out?

[Elkaholic daWg]

 jan.angel@leg.wa.gov, gary.alexander@leg.wa.gov, appleton.sherry@leg.wa.gov, bergquist.steve@leg.wa.gov, blake.brian@leg.wa.gov, vincent.buys@leg.wa.gov, reuven.carlyle@leg.wa.gov, bruce.chandler@leg.wa.gov, 'frank.chopp@leg.wa.gov, judy.clibborn@leg.wa.gov, eileen.cody@leg.wa.gov, cary.condotta@leg.wa.gov, larry.crouse@leg.wa.gov, cathy.dahlquist@leg.wa.gov, richard.debolt@leg.wa.gov, hans.dunshee@leg.wa.gov, susan.fagan@leg.wa.gov, farrell.jessyn@leg.wa.gov, fey.jake@leg.wa.gov, fitzgibbon.joe@leg.wa.gov, freeman.roger@leg.wa.gov, roger.goodman@leg.wa.gov, tami.green@leg.wa.gov, habib.cyrus@leg.wa.gov, haigh.kathy@leg.wa.gov, larry.haler@leg.wa.gov, drew.hansen@leg.wa.gov, mark.hargrove@leg.wa.gov, paul.harris@leg.wa.gov, brad.hawkins@leg.wa.gov, dave.hayes@leg.wa.gov, jeff.holy@leg.wa.gov, mike.hope@leg.wa.go, zack.hudgins@leg.wa.gov, sam.hunt@leg.wa.gov, ross.hunter@leg.wa.gov, christopher.hurst@leg.wa.gov, laurie.jinkins@leg.wa.gov, norm.johnson@leg.wa.gov, ruth.kagi@leg.wa.gov, steve.kirby@leg.wa.gov, brad.klippert@leg.wa.gov, linda.kochmar@leg.wa.gov, joel.kretz@leg.wa.gov, dan.kristiansen@leg.wa.gov, marko.liias@leg.wa.gov, kristine.lytton@leg.wa.gov, drew.macewen@leg.wa.gov, chad.magendanz@leg.wa.gov, matt.manweller@leg.wa.gov, maxwell.marcie@leg.wa.gov, john.mccoy@leg.wa.gov, jim.moeller@leg.wa.gov, morrell.dawn@leg.wa.gov, jeff.morris@leg.wa.gov, luis.moscoso@leg.wa.gov, terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov, steve.oban@leg.wa.gov, ed.orcutt@leg.wa.gov, timm.ormsby@leg.wa.gov, tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov, jason.overstreet@leg.wa.gov, kevin.parker@leg.wa.gov, jamie.pedersen@leg.wa.gov, eric.pettigrew@leg.wa.gov, liz.pike@leg.wa.gov, gerry.pollet@leg.wa.gov, chris.reykdal@leg.wa.gov, riccelli.marcus@leg.wa.gov, maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov, jay.rodne@leg.wa.gov, charles.ross@leg.wa.gov, cindy.ryu@leg.wa.gov, santos.sharontomiko@leg.wa.gov, sawyer.david@leg.wa.gov, joe.schmick@leg.wa.gov, elizabeth.scott@leg.wa.gov, larry.seaquist@leg.wa.gov, mike.sells@leg.wa.gov, matt.shea@leg.wa.gov, shelly.short@leg.wa.gov, norma.smith@leg.wa.gov, larry.springer@leg.wa.gov, derek.stanford@leg.wa.gov, stonier.monica@leg.wa.gov, pat.sullivan@leg.wa.gov, dean.takko@leg.wa.gov, tarleton.gael@leg.wa.gov, david.taylor@leg.wa.gov, steve.tharinger@leg.wa.gov, ave.upthegrove@leg.wa.gov, kevin.vandewege@leg.wa.gov, brandon.vick@leg.wa.gov, maureen.walsh@leg.wa.gov, judy.warnick@leg.wa.gov, jt.wilcox@leg.wa.gov, sharon.wylie@leg.wa.gov, hans.zeiger@leg.wa.gov
mike.hope@leg.wa.gov, frank.chopp@leg.wa.gov