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Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2013, 07:10:17 AM »
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing this guy doesn't have fencing on his property?

Terrible as it is, you're just asking for it if you don't keep your dog(s) within a fenced enclosure. It's not that expensive to drive some metal posts into the ground and zip tie wire mesh to it. Doubling up with an invisible fence unit to keep the dog from getting any ideas if getting beyond that adds to the security.

Even without wolves that would be common sense given the other predators and animals that can generally cause harm to a dog that we have in this state.

I remember hearing stories about people's dogs running off into the night after coyotes and never coming back here on the west side. I still just shake my head at the Pollyanna mindset of some.

This isn't a pro wolf statement, I just think the owner was unwise, especially given current conditions.

Do you have any idea how high a wolf can jump? How tall should your fence be? I suppose we should only walk our dogs in fully fenced areas too... Suppose the state ought to pay for those too!

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2013, 07:11:56 AM »
I really hope that part about the WDFW is untrue.  Maybe they just asked to make sure and someone is making it into something it's not?  I hope that's the case. 

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2013, 07:13:36 AM »
Aspenbud, did you miss the part where the dog was ON THE PORCH.   

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2013, 07:15:22 AM »
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing this guy doesn't have fencing on his property?

Terrible as it is, you're just asking for it if you don't keep your dog(s) within a fenced enclosure. It's not that expensive to drive some metal posts into the ground and zip tie wire mesh to it. Doubling up with an invisible fence unit to keep the dog from getting any ideas if getting beyond that adds to the security.

Even without wolves that would be common sense given the other predators and animals that can generally cause harm to a dog that we have in this state.

I remember hearing stories about people's dogs running off into the night after coyotes and never coming back here on the west side. I still just shake my head at the Pollyanna mindset of some.

This isn't a pro wolf statement, I just think the owner was unwise, especially given current conditions.

He probably has dogs so he doesn't have to have a fence. 

The situation sucks.   If it was a wolf attack, kill the wolf, stitch the dog up and move on.

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2013, 07:19:21 AM »
I am a little disappointed in ______.    Two rounds of 00 buck would have done the trick at about 3 feet.  Hed probably have to drag it into his house to make it look like self defense though.



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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2013, 07:28:01 AM »
I hope your Dog makes a fast recovery! People that live in Sudden Valley deal
 With a massive overpopulation of Blacktails in the Lake Whatcom watershed
 So many deer are hit every week so should the WDFW pay for the auto damage?
Take a ride in a tall vehicle and I guarantee Atleast 3dead deer in the ditch before
You hit gate 3 by the store.How Bout some Archery tags for this area?
Seems better then dead deer and damaged cars and trucks...

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2013, 07:32:59 AM »
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing this guy doesn't have fencing on his property?

Terrible as it is, you're just asking for it if you don't keep your dog(s) within a fenced enclosure. It's not that expensive to drive some metal posts into the ground and zip tie wire mesh to it. Doubling up with an invisible fence unit to keep the dog from getting any ideas if getting beyond that adds to the security.

Even without wolves that would be common sense given the other predators and animals that can generally cause harm to a dog that we have in this state.

I remember hearing stories about people's dogs running off into the night after coyotes and never coming back here on the west side. I still just shake my head at the Pollyanna mindset of some.

This isn't a pro wolf statement, I just think the owner was unwise, especially given current conditions.

He probably has dogs so he doesn't have to have a fence. 

The situation sucks.   If it was a wolf attack, kill the wolf, stitch the dog up and move on.

That's probably true. But anyone using dogs like that to ward off predators has to know that they stand a chance of losing a dog that way.

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2013, 07:39:20 AM »
Aspenbud, did you miss the part where the dog was ON THE PORCH.

I didn't miss that. From a human safety standpoint that's a real problem.

But from the angle of dog ownership this guy either knew potential risk to his dogs or chose to live in unreality or was incredibly foolish. Which of those it was I don't know, but fencing for dogs is a good idea to prevent such attacks whether you live in wolf country or not.

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2013, 07:43:44 AM »
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing this guy doesn't have fencing on his property?

Terrible as it is, you're just asking for it if you don't keep your dog(s) within a fenced enclosure. It's not that expensive to drive some metal posts into the ground and zip tie wire mesh to it. Doubling up with an invisible fence unit to keep the dog from getting any ideas if getting beyond that adds to the security.

Even without wolves that would be common sense given the other predators and animals that can generally cause harm to a dog that we have in this state.

I remember hearing stories about people's dogs running off into the night after coyotes and never coming back here on the west side. I still just shake my head at the Pollyanna mindset of some.

This isn't a pro wolf statement, I just think the owner was unwise, especially given current conditions.

Uh huh.  ;)

The wolf was attacking his dog ON THE PORCH. If you're not a pro-wolfer, I'm not an elk hunter. The mindset problem in this thread isn't the dog owner's. It's that of people who think that a person whose property, livestock, pets, or family is attacked by wolves must've done something wrong.
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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2013, 07:55:58 AM »
The dog owner isn't at fault here, but either is the WDFW. They didn't put that wolf there. And delisting? Even if the Feds would allow that to happen, it wouldn't have saved the dog on the porch. Sounds like a bunch of liberals on here- blaming the government for everything.
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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2013, 08:00:07 AM »
So if my dog attacks kills the neighbors dog on his doorstep, then it is the neighbors fault for not having a fence???

Pretty sure the deer, elk, cougars and such are "wards" of the state.  If not, why would they feel inclined to ever compensate anybody for any damage caused by them. 

For damn sure the state is liable.

You have the right to protect yourself your family and your property.

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2013, 08:04:03 AM »
- There's enough wolves in WA to delist, people could protect themselves and animals if we had an agency that would confirm existing wolves.


Regarding the bolded part of what was said here...  is it illegal for people to protect themselves and/or their animals from wolves?  Would the guy in the story be in trouble if he had shot the wolf?
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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2013, 08:05:02 AM »
So when a dog gets a face full of porcupine quills, the state is liable?

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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2013, 08:07:08 AM »
Shoot them big yoties and walk the other direction. After all, WDFW says there are no wolves in most of the areas where they have been spotted or they just call them hybreds so if there isnt any wolves they must be yoties or a hybred (where does it say you cant shoot a hybred?),if WDFW can call them hybreds with out 100% proof I guess its ok for us to also.  :dunno:
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Re: Wolf attacks Dog in Twisp, Wa.
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2013, 08:07:49 AM »
The dog owner isn't at fault here, but either is the WDFW. They didn't put that wolf there. And delisting? Even if the Feds would allow that to happen, it wouldn't have saved the dog on the porch. Sounds like a bunch of liberals on here- blaming the government deformed everything.

I agree to a point. What makes wolves different from , coyotes, deer, porqupines, cougars, Is that the state is partly to blame. With their poor management which is to say non management. They just bury their heads and the sand and blame everything on anything but wolves.
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