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Re: Who's applying? WDFW hiring 2 more wolf trappers.
« Reply #90 on: April 08, 2013, 07:40:00 PM »

I have experience with lawsuits, and anyone who has been involved in one can telly you, 99% of the time they are not slam dunks.

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Anyone doesn't think politics don't intude into the court room? A suit would be near impossible to win and very, very expensive.
So, lets say you win what does it get you?  The court might rule they were brought in in violation of the law but that won't translate into remedial action. Do you think a court would order USFWS to exterminate every wolf south of the Canadian border? I think not!
Maybe they would order them off the Endangered Species list. Guess what, it's already happening. So what would be the point of spending the cash for a lawsuit? Nothing to gain by it.
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Re: Who's applying? WDFW hiring 2 more wolf trappers.
« Reply #91 on: April 08, 2013, 07:45:44 PM »
Ok, so if they are not going to go thru with a lawsuit, why not get the info out there and let public opinion rule.  Get the info out there in the newspapers and on websites like this?  I guess I just don't get it. 

If info about wolves illegally introduced into the state was widely known, I would think that people could have pressured WDFW and the commission with that ammo to get wolves delisted instead of them coming up with a ridiculous wolf plan.  I just can't see any reason not to get the info out there and act like they have info but it is some secret?  :dunno:
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Re: Who's applying? WDFW hiring 2 more wolf trappers.
« Reply #92 on: April 08, 2013, 07:46:49 PM »
Oh, and BTW............ :jacked:  (but the thread has kind of veered off for a few pages now)  :chuckle:

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Re: Who's applying? WDFW hiring 2 more wolf trappers.
« Reply #93 on: April 08, 2013, 10:58:45 PM »
part of the problem lies in 2 facts. You must show damages in order to have standing in a case. Can be very subjective if you don't have it really nailed down. You must ask for a remedy, what you are asking the court to do. Both these things get very "insider baseball" quickly. Unfortunate that does not translate very well for general public consumption, Just those who are in the know on the technical side, and on policy/politics.   It takes 2 very different approaches to sell a case to the public and to make one work in a lawsuit. I think this issue requires both. making it harder for us Joe hunters that are not lawyers or WDFW USFS political junkies.
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