Anyone interested in goats?

[JoeVon]

NorsePeak, sent you a PM.

[WDFW-SUX]

Basically the whole system here in Wa needs to be revamped from top to bottom.  But at least they are listening...its a start

I agree. I think there priorities are FUBAR and that major changes are needed in the department as far as how there budgets are spent.

For fiscal year 2008 there budget was $173.451 million and for 2009 it was $174.550million dollars for a biennial total of $348.001 million bucks.........


What the hell are they doing with there funds?

[NoBark]

I'm actually pleasently surprised that the Bio and friends were willing to let you help out.  The goats in my neck of the woods were off limits and the numbers they were giving weren't adding up.   Evfforts to convince them otherwise was a tough sell. But, it finally worked. We have tags again.

Now the glacier peak area goats could use a rest from the natives. that would help  :twocents:them.

[norsepeak]

talked at lenth with the bio yesterday and basically he didn't believe me when I told him about the numbers and locations of the goats I'm seeing.  I told him what I thought the actual population is in this area and he said "I disagree" and then moved on to another topic.  He was basically no help at all except he did give me names and numbers of the head honchos over in Olympia...so I'll be calling them next week...you know what they say about the squeaky wheel.

[bowsandhose]

keep squeaking 

[NoBark]

That's the exact kind of "WE KNOW MORE THAN YOU" mentallity I hate in our department.

Oh, they want our 'eyes in the woods' to help with poaching or trash dumping but
don't dare suggest you've seen something that doesn't fit their assumptions.

The Guy told you they don't fly that area enough because of $$$$$$.. Duhhhhh maybe someone with boot leather knows something.....

It's not like you're gonna take his job away from him. Gripes WDFW

Give the Sportsman a littel RESPECT!

[WDFW-SUX]

"I disagree" You dont know what a goat looks like you were seeing snow patches..................

 

How can they just write you off I don't get it you spend more time in that area than the bio, Does he think your lying

[norsepeak]

I think he was assuming that I was counting herds twice or double counting even though I told him that during deer season, standing on one hill top, with my binos I counted 96 goats in one day.  He says there is 121 goats in the whole area...so I asked him if he thought that from my one vantage pt. that I saw 90% of the whole population in that 100 square mile area.  He didn't have a good answer.  For being "so smart" they sure are dumb.  Biologists, that is not the goats...

[WDFW-SUX]

 

[shanevg]

I hate all this crap about not being able to afford the fly overs with the planes!  Seriously, there are probably enough hunters in this state that own planes that they would gladly fly the bios over the goat herds!  I know I could find some people up here in Whatcom County who would do it in a second.  They just need to recruit our help!  I wish the bios would just post on the website that they want hunter input and actually be willing to go out with us to find the goats.  I know there enough goats up by Mt. Baker to support some more tags, there are more goats dying of old age than from legal hunting.  Now if only we could establish a fair balance between a normal American citizen and the tribal hunters. 

[actionshooter]

  I know there enough goats up by Mt. Baker to support some more tags, there are more goats dying of old age than from legal hunting.  Now if only we could establish a fair balance between a normal American citizen and the tribal hunters. 

 Good luck!!

[norsepeak]

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